Monday, July 18, 2022

Proposal: Your Name In Lights

Timed out and enacted, 8-2. Josh

Adminned at 20 Jul 2022 10:55:06 UTC

Remove all Operating Costs from all Engines, and the phrase “an operating cost, ” from the rule Engines.

Add a new Engine to the list in the rule Engines:

| Nuclear || ₩9,700 || 1,450

Add a new Chassis to the list in the rule Chassises:

| Titanium Holdfast || ₩8,870 || 4 || 480

Remove the Base Power from all Systems, and the phrase “a base power,” from the rule Systems. Add the following Systems to the list in the rule Systems:

| LED Banner || ₩3,200 || 120 per name (see effect) || Displays the name of every distinct Operator that Bot has defeated in a Bout while using this System; these names are publicly tracked. Has no other effect.

Add a new rule to the ruleset, called Showboating:

If a Bot wins a Bout while using an LED Banner that displays the name of quorum or more Operators then the operator of that Bot has achieved Victory.

Comments

Chiiika: she/her

18-07-2022 10:53:37 UTC

against “quorum” could be a name

SingularByte: he/him

18-07-2022 10:54:56 UTC

Can I just check the exact intended meaning of the LED Banner effect? It could be interpreted to mean “While using this system, displays the name of every distinct Operator that Bot has defeated”, or as “For each both that was defeated in a bout while this bot had this system, this system displays their name.”

The first is of course the easier of the two to achieve, so if it’s not intended, it’s a possible scam win.

(I’m of course pointing it out now instead of doing it myself since I’m currently behind several players and I doubt I’ll be the only one to spot it.)

Chiiika: she/her

18-07-2022 10:55:10 UTC

reword this to “displays a number of Operator names equal to or more than the quorum”

SingularByte: he/him

18-07-2022 10:56:16 UTC

[Chiiika] The rule Names in clarifications prevents quorum from being a name, since it’s not explicitly a name.

Chiiika: she/her

18-07-2022 10:56:34 UTC

SingularByte: I *thinks* Josh meant the latter of two, but he could say for himself

Chiiika: she/her

18-07-2022 11:03:13 UTC

Ahh, so these kinds of scams are autopatched now
CoV for

Josh: Observer he/they

18-07-2022 11:47:35 UTC

@chiiika Remember that proposals can be edited in their first 4 hours unless you vote; if you have an objection please hold your vote until after the edit window.

@SB Yes, the second was the intent; I now obviously can’t change the wording so it may be worth a patch.

Chiiika: she/her

18-07-2022 12:11:22 UTC

Josh: oh frick I forgot that exist kek sorry

Lulu: she/her

18-07-2022 12:12:28 UTC

against

Brendan: he/him

18-07-2022 14:44:45 UTC

for

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

18-07-2022 17:38:41 UTC

against seems like a rather odd win condition

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

18-07-2022 17:48:02 UTC

CoV for on second thought, I like the flavor though

lendunistus: he/him

18-07-2022 17:56:25 UTC

against

I don’t like this, just wastes a hardpoint
can also be quite easily skewed by the announcer

Josh: Observer he/they

18-07-2022 18:01:50 UTC

@lendun Not without violating the rules on randomness

Josh: Observer he/they

18-07-2022 18:02:25 UTC

And the use of a hardpoint, and the high energy cost, is a feature; it’s supposed to be hard

lendunistus: he/him

18-07-2022 18:59:15 UTC

I would still rather have a VC related to money

i’ll write up that proposal soon along with sponsors

Snisbo: she/they

19-07-2022 17:26:11 UTC

imperial

Raven1207: he/they

19-07-2022 19:05:32 UTC

imperial

Darknight: he/him

19-07-2022 20:34:57 UTC

imperial

lendunistus: he/him

19-07-2022 21:07:41 UTC

there could be shenanigans here related to creating an account with the name “quorum” but I doubt people would go to that length

Josh: Observer he/they

19-07-2022 21:08:21 UTC

@lendus see the comments above; there are existing provisions that defend against that eventuality.

SingularByte: he/him

20-07-2022 04:58:18 UTC

for  But it’ll need the fix soon enough.