Wednesday, July 31, 2024

Proposal: You’re So Case Insensitive

Reached Quorum, 3-0 with 2 DEFs and Elder Judge voting FOR. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 01 Aug 2024 02:37:45 UTC

In the rule “Fish Function” add the following text:

In this rule, when determining whether two strings or two names of fish are the same, treat all lowercase alphabetical characters as if they were uppercase for the purposes of this comparison. The Fish Function may not require alphabetical characters to be uppercase or lowercase as part of the description of the function.

Consider the Fish Function as being empty as of the date and time of this enactment.

I think the space of alphanumeric characters is wide enough without introducing uppercase and lowercase differences, plus one could exploit multiple matches of the same fish name, e.g. a Fish Function of “Two of the same vowels adjacent to each other” and guesses of “Balloon, balloon, bAllOOn” would all match otherwise.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

31-07-2024 02:15:08 UTC

The fish function has already been set. This would potentially break it

Clucky: he/him

31-07-2024 02:15:41 UTC

And DK confirming it would break it or not woukd give us information either way

JonathanDark: he/him

31-07-2024 03:07:49 UTC

Good point. It’s probably best if this Proposal is enacted, that the Fish Function is reset no matter what, to avoid giving away its current contents.

JonathanDark: he/him

31-07-2024 03:11:03 UTC

I understand that the resetting of the current Fish Function has its own problems if guesses have already been made. Rolling those back would be too complicated, so they’ll just have to be left as-is. I also get that this may be a bridge too far for people to have the Fish Function reset in any case.

I will say that I had envisioned some future Proposal where the Fish Function might get reset anyway through some dynastic mechanism, so I don’t personally see it as an earth-shattering issue, but that’s just my opinion.

Clucky: he/him

31-07-2024 05:19:59 UTC

I guess I just don’t see why this is really needed. I think it’s more interesting if fish is allowed to be different from FISH

I guess the concern is that people can spam fish or fisH or FiSh and claim free dubloon s?

Lukas:

31-07-2024 05:51:14 UTC

imperial

SingularByte: he/him

31-07-2024 07:15:30 UTC

I expect half the guesses will be people figuring out how to game the fish function anyway.

imperial

Darknight: he/him

31-07-2024 11:43:36 UTC

for I will clarify that no guesses have been made yet so this won’t break anything

JonathanDark: he/him

31-07-2024 13:31:28 UTC

@clucky that is exactly the concern, and it favors the person submitting Fish Indentification after the first successful name is posted. Unless the first successful guesser wants to use up their Catches submitting all the variations, the play here would be to wait until a successful guess, then spam with all the uppercase and lowercase variations and potentially rack up the doubloons.

I think it’s a more interesting game to try to guess the function rather than low-bar, minimal effort, case sensitive word spamming.

Clucky: he/him

01-08-2024 01:06:41 UTC

for