Tuesday, March 29, 2011

Proposal: A Fresh Board

Self-killed -Darth

Adminned at 29 Mar 2011 20:33:27 UTC

Enact a new rule, “Board and Pieces”:-

Mornington Crescent is a board game played on the London Underground map as it exists at http://blognomic.com/images/tubemap.gif. The Board consists of a number of Stations situated on a number of Lines.

Each Player has a Piece, the location of which is tracked in the GNDT. This Piece may either be located Off the Board (notated as “-”), or at a single Station. All Players’ Pieces begin located Off the Board.

Enact a new rule, “Mornington Crescent”:-

If a single Player’s Piece is located at Mornington Crescent, that Player has achieved victory.

Reproposal with “located” instead of “placed”.

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

29-03-2011 11:55:14 UTC

for

Ely:

29-03-2011 12:05:01 UTC

for

Purplebeard:

29-03-2011 12:14:59 UTC

for

ais523:

29-03-2011 14:28:48 UTC

I’m not convinced that this doesn’t have exactly the same problem as the previous proposal.

Josh: Observer he/they

29-03-2011 14:30:43 UTC

I would vote for a DOV based on “placed” but not one based on “located”. To place one’s piece on a board is common usage; I’ve never heard anyone say that they located their piece on a board, except perhaps in the context of finding it.

Roujo: he/him

29-03-2011 14:48:50 UTC

I think it’s more logical to associate Victory with a Piece’s location instead of the action of placing it. The Tudor Court’s Rules state, in their revised 5th edition, that “[one] should win when e is at Mornington Crescent, [regardless] of how e got there, [whether] by choice or by force, [whether] by design or by chance.” Should we use “placed” instead of “located”, one could possibly be robbed of a deserved Victory simply because the rule in effect said “transported” instead of “placed”, [whereas] using “located” circumvents that possible restriction and thus avoids related CfJs.

Also: FINALLY! My collection of “Mornington Crescent Rules Through the Ages (and Beyond)” will be put to use! I think I’ll be using those textbooks a /lot/ in this game. =P

Travis:

29-03-2011 15:18:42 UTC

I like located. That seems like the natural goal, to be located at your destination at the end of the game. for

Bucky:

29-03-2011 15:47:40 UTC

for
@Roujo: You might not have followed the 2009 Métro de Montréal Invitational, but in the grand finals one player set up a trap where he was displaced onto Mornington Crescent during another player’s turn, while that other player was also moving to Mornington Crescent.  The appeals panel (citing a relatively obscure East Canadian timing rule) found that the displaced player won even though he did not announce his presence at Mornington Crescent.

This being Blognomic, however, we’ll use DoV timing in such a situation to decide the dynastic winner.

Kevan: he/him

29-03-2011 16:04:30 UTC

against Just to stop this devolving into a drawn-out DoV as soon as the proposal passes, thematic though that might be. I shall propose a safer version with an explicit (but repealable) lock on moving to Mornington Crescent.

Bucky:

29-03-2011 16:14:49 UTC

Kevan, there’s no DoV potential because the Blognomic ruleset doesn’t support moving yet regardless of what the Mornington Crescent rules say.

Kevan: he/him

29-03-2011 16:19:27 UTC

[Bucky] The argument is that by saying “a Piece may be located at a Station”, it can be read as “players may locate their Pieces at Stations” - that players can move their pieces freely.