Friday, September 01, 2006

Proposal: A little harmony

Reached quorum, 13-0.—Kevan

Adminned at 03 Sep 2006 03:11:25 UTC

Create a new GNDT column called ‘Style’, with three values, ‘Consonant’ and ‘Dissonant’, and ‘-’.

Create a new rule titled “Harmony”:

Any Musician may perform in either a Consonant or Dissonant Style. Each Musician may often change eir Style.

If the Musicians listed directly above and directly below another Musician according to the GNDT are playing in the same Style, the Musician in between the two changes to play in that Style as well.

New Musicians have their Style set to ‘-’, although ‘-’ is not a Style.

Example: If Musicians A, B, and C are listed in that order in the GNDT, and A and C are playing Consonantly, then B’s Style becomes Consonant.

If the Proposal ‘Procedural Theme’ passed, replace ‘Musician’ with ‘Clerk’ throughout the body of “Harmony”.

Set the Style of all Musicians to ‘-’.



01-09-2006 00:34:28 UTC

for Let’s all give a cheer for one-dimensional reversi!


01-09-2006 00:55:28 UTC



01-09-2006 00:58:48 UTC

Game of Life?

Kevan: he/him

01-09-2006 01:03:06 UTC


Seventy-Fifth Trombone:

01-09-2006 01:49:53 UTC



01-09-2006 03:03:39 UTC

Suppose four musicians are in this situation in the GNDT: CDDC, do both of the inner ones switch to C, or does the situatione *have* to be CDC? I.e., is it reversi, or cellular automata? My reading is the latter, but just want to be sure.



01-09-2006 03:35:17 UTC

It seems pretty unambiguously to be the latter. If anyone interpreted it as the former I’d definitely CfJ.


01-09-2006 03:42:38 UTC

How about CDCDCDCD?


01-09-2006 03:48:33 UTC

And how exactly would that come about? I can see how you would get CDCD, but not something as long as your example.

I guess in the case of CDCD, both of the inner two musicians meet the criterion, so they both change, and the result is CCDD.

If we somehow got to the situation in your example, it would go from CDCDCDCD to CCDCDCDD, then to CCCDCDDD, then finally CCCCDDDD. :D


01-09-2006 04:57:42 UTC

The rule doesn’t say anything about when the change has to be made, but does require changes to be made (in the order they happen?) after certain things happen.

Also, it doesn’t say ‘...between must change…’ it just says ‘...between changes…’, which if it is a rule, sounds more like a rule for the GNDT to automatically do something.  (There is precedent. DICEX.)


01-09-2006 05:03:05 UTC

What do you mean “if it is a rule”? Of course it’s a rule. It seems pretty clear to me that the change is immediate, and that altering the GNDT accordingly is simply updating it to reflect things. What does DICEX have to do with it?


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01-09-2006 14:13:49 UTC

for the “state-based effect” happens immediately.  If several Musicians’ styles simultaneously apply for the change, they change simultaneously.

epylar, I think I understand your concern about the difference between “changes” and “must change”.  We’re using “changes” here to indicate that the change is automatic and instantaneous.  We use “must change” to indicate that an actual human player must change something (as part of doing some other trigger action, usually).  When no consequences are given for failure to do a “must” action, the default consequence is that the actions which triggered the “must” action are illegal.


01-09-2006 15:00:04 UTC



01-09-2006 23:27:08 UTC

for i see no harm, could lead to some fun things if certain styles = cetain powers


03-09-2006 03:27:56 UTC

for  imperial