Saturday, February 25, 2023

Proposal: A selection of victory conditions

Fewer than a quorum not voting AGAINST. Failed 2 votes to 4 by Kevan.

Adminned at 27 Feb 2023 09:59:46 UTC

Reword the rule Goals to:

The bullet points below in this rule are Victory Conditions. The first Villager to meet all the requirements for one of these victory conditions has achieved victory. Some of these victory conditions have a Victory Cost - paying the Victory Cost when it is legal to do so is a dynastic action with no effects other than those specified in the applicable Victory Condition. (In the case of multiple villagers meeting all of the requirements for a victory condition simultaneously, the first of those villagers to declare victory is the one that is considered to be the one that met the requirements first.)

*Called help: The villager must have constructed a Radio Tower.
*Warmed the settlement: The villager must have constructed a Bonfire.
*Escaped: The villager must be at the Road, and must pay a Victory Cost of 60 time while at the Road at least twice without going unconscious as a direct result of the payments.
*Last person standing: The villager must be the only villager to be conscious. Alternatively, they may be the only conscious villager with a cudgel.
*Boarded themselves in: The villager must be the only one villager who is in an indoors location, and must pay a Victory Cost of 1 Branches.

Create a rule called Constructions with the following text:

There exists a number of entities called Constructions, which each have a location which must be outdoors. Up to one of each type of Construction can exist.

Constructions can be built by villager by spending the Construction Cost from that villager’s Inventory.

Create a table in Constructions with the following header and rows.

Constructions | Cost
Bonfire | Six Items which have the Fabric and/or Organic adjectives. (Branches count as two items for this purpose.)
Radio Tower | A battery with at least 10 charge, and four Items which have the Metal and/or Electric adjectives.

These should hopefully be somewhat neutral rather than favouring any particular player.

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

25-02-2023 11:34:16 UTC

Good stuff.

The gut check concern I have is that I don’t know what Brendan and lendun have in their stashes, but they’re both electronic which gives them a leg up on the radio. But then, the cudgel-wielders have a Last Person Standing bonus… Hmm.

Kevan: he/him

25-02-2023 13:21:01 UTC

The current Goals rule was meant to address the “somewhat neutral rather than favouring any particular player” issue by hashing the criteria out within the circle of the game rather than through iterative proposals - only the least rejected goals matter.

If we can actually get there with a straight vote, though, fair enough.

The construction goals all feel a bit on the long side given how much Heat we’re losing, to me. I think it’s going to come down to Last Person Standing before anything else can be completed, and I’m not sure I’d win that one.

SingularByte: he/him

25-02-2023 13:34:10 UTC

Given that there’s heat-free searching, and you can infinitely gather thermos and branches for when you actually make it outside, the cold isn’t too bad. The main source of loss for people indoors is just people coming in to steal warmth, which is going to get less as time goes on.

lendunistus: he/him

25-02-2023 16:08:27 UTC

for

lendunistus: he/him

25-02-2023 16:09:28 UTC

although “build” and “construct” could mean different things so I’m not sure if you can actually achieve the bonfire and radio tower wincons

Josh: Observer he/they

25-02-2023 16:22:46 UTC

I agree with Kevan that it’s likely to come down to most warmth, and given that Kevan and JD have managed their situation such that they never need to lose warmth that seems self-defeating for the rest of us to support.

against

@lendun I think the common English language read of the words as contextual synonyms would win out here, but I may be wrong.

JonathanDark: he/him

25-02-2023 16:28:52 UTC

against

Habanero:

26-02-2023 03:28:56 UTC

imperial

Kevan: he/him

26-02-2023 09:46:23 UTC

against

Brendan: he/him

26-02-2023 13:39:25 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

26-02-2023 18:02:47 UTC

I’ve idled myself; quorum is unchanged.

Brendan: he/him

26-02-2023 19:51:41 UTC

against CoV, as I’m worried about the wording of the boarding-in condition, now that I take another look at it. ‘The villager must be the only one villager who is in an indoors location’ seems like it could apply to any Villager who is alone in a location.