Wednesday, March 08, 2017

Proposal: A Tiny Difference

Self-killed. — Quirck

Adminned at 09 Mar 2017 19:48:16 UTC

If the proposal “I can see clearly now” has not passed this proposal does nothing.

Under the section titled “Anatomy” change “-Ocellus: As a daily action, an organ of this state may scout any location that is horizontally or vertically adjacent to the Creature’s current location. If the location examined is named “Foggy Location” the organ may change it’s name to “Scouted Location” and then add one random terrain feature to that location.” to

-Ocellus: As a daily action, an organ of this state may scout any location that is horizontally or vertically adjacent to the Creature’s current location. If the location examined does not contain any terrain features, they must add one random terrain feature to that location. If the location is called Foggy Location, the Organ must choose a different name that is not Sea of Eden.

This time in the correct category


Oracular rufio:

03-08-2017 15:56:00 UTC

Note: I like Scouted Location better.  Also, I think we need a “may” in there, as in “they may add…”

derrick: HE/HIM

03-08-2017 16:10:07 UTC

note: I think they should have the ability to name the location if they scout it. And as they know what feature it has, they can do so intelligently. I don’t think “may” enters into it though: they should add the feature.

Oracular rufio:

03-08-2017 17:07:08 UTC

Note:  Must or should or shall, then.  But I think we need a modal.


03-08-2017 19:51:25 UTC



derrick: HE/HIM

03-08-2017 19:56:23 UTC

for I like it!


03-08-2017 20:41:16 UTC

for seems legit

Oracular rufio:

03-08-2017 21:18:08 UTC

for You spelled Ocellus wrong again, I just noticed, in both places, but since it’s a typo you can still correct it.


03-08-2017 22:11:50 UTC

I copied it from another proposal and they probably made the mistake, I should have checked anyway.

Kevan: HE/HIM

03-09-2017 09:55:52 UTC

against Letting players write free text in the gamestate is always scammable. (Naming a location “a Location that also contains a Brine Pool”, “the Beak state”, “Playername’s Achieved Victory”, etc.)


03-09-2017 10:04:59 UTC


quirck: HE/HIM

03-09-2017 11:30:08 UTC



03-09-2017 11:41:13 UTC

against [Cuddlebeam] Can you explain how ‘may’ is poison? It seemed only like it was poison because of your odd personal interpretation of the word.


03-09-2017 16:20:47 UTC


derrick: HE/HIM

03-09-2017 16:38:41 UTC

against grrr. no point in fighting it, I suppose.


03-09-2017 16:39:37 UTC

[Kevan] Those are just the names of the locations though and currently the only effect names have are prevent movement if it’s named Foggy Location. A location named “Kevan wins” won’t make you win unless there’s some other rule that makes the name do something. If it did then each “Scouted Location” would contain two crevices and one skeleton because the name has two c’s and one skeleton.

Kevan: HE/HIM

03-09-2017 17:37:37 UTC

There are sentences in the ruleset which would become comfortably ambiguous - “increase the Statolith’s Gonium by 5 if the Creature is in a Location that also contains a Brine Pool” would refer both to Locations that contain actually Brine Pools, and Locations given the name “a Location that also contains a Brine Pool”.

Sure, “Kevan wins” wouldn’t do anything by itself because gamestate phrases aren’t rules. A location named “Kevan’s Achieved Victory” could be used to argue that I “have achieved victory in the current Dynasty”, though, at a bit of a stretch - there’s a pile of victory there with my name on it, and it says it was achieved.

(I doubt that kind of DoV would actually fly. But there might be stronger loopholes in the core ruleset that I can’t see offhand - any sentence containing the word “in” is quite vulnerable, because we’re all “in” a named Location.)


03-09-2017 17:48:58 UTC



03-09-2017 19:00:33 UTC