Monday, April 15, 2024

Proposal: Anybody’s Guess

Withdrawn. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 16 Apr 2024 21:07:25 UTC

To the Standard of the “Grand Prix in Advertising Photography” Award, add:-

, where that Guess is not already apparently confirmable by public information alone

Shutting down the sniper routes to getting this. There’s Clucky’s tactic that if someone is slow to update their Criteria and you’re lucky enough to be online, you can just repeat a shared Criteria back at them as a guess. There are similar avenues where a player fully reveals a Criterion in conversation (inadvertently or for some non-cooperative reason), and whoever is online at that moment can claim it. This award should just be about genuine guesswork.

Comments

Josh: he/they

15-04-2024 09:23:33 UTC

Normally I wouldn’t worry about this, but as we’re in the Everyone’s Being A… Literalist dynasty, it’s worth pointing out that all anybody has to go on is public information, including the contents of photos and the scoring on other snaps, so this is going to lean very hard on how much on a… literalist your fellow players are going to be about the term “confirmable”. Personally, my level of trust in that matter is low.

JonathanDark: he/him

15-04-2024 12:46:13 UTC

I think if you rewrite that to “where that Guess is only based on Authentic Shots and scoring responses to those Shots” it will be more clear.

Clucky: he/him

15-04-2024 16:25:06 UTC

you could also just patch the window loophole. there are still other advantages to snipe guessing that this explicitly still allows for.

meanwhile this makes it a lot harder for me to do a smash and graph unidle if the opportunity presents itself…

JonathanDark: he/him

15-04-2024 16:30:36 UTC

Too late to edit, so against in favor of something with more clarity

JonathanDark: he/him

15-04-2024 16:48:00 UTC

There’s also a small anti-Guess scam buried in here.

Josh: he/they

15-04-2024 18:44:56 UTC

against

NadNavillus: he/him

15-04-2024 19:22:29 UTC

against

Kevan: City he/him

16-04-2024 08:21:57 UTC

I suppose the “yes you are correct” response to a Guess would itself be public information, so this needs some past tense at a minimum.

against Withdrawn.

[Clucky] Didn’t you already claim this Award? That was the only reason I wasn’t repealing it.

[Jonathan] You mention the anti-Guess scam in a later proposal as being that a player can announce their Criteria to make them unguessable. That’s not quite right, though - other players can still Guess them (and cause them to be blanked), they just wouldn’t win an award for doing so.