Friday, July 21, 2023

Proposal: Cable Tie

Reaches quorum 5-0 and is enacted -SingularByte

Adminned at 23 Jul 2023 07:59:38 UTC

Remove the following text from “Initialisation”:-

If two or more of a Machinist’s own Agendas have been Fulfilled for the last 24 hours, and it has been at least 7 days since Initialisation Phase Two was repealed, that Machinist has achieved victory. A Declaration of Victory based on this rule should include the text of each of the Agendas that contributed to the victory.

Create a new rule called “Victory”:-

A Machinist’s Mastery is equal to the number of Agendas that they own which have been Fulfilled for the last 24 hours.

If a Machinist’s Mastery is at least 2, and is higher than that of every other Machinist, and if it has been at least 7 days since Initialisation Phase Two was repealed, then the Great Machine may make a blog post announcing the identity of this Machinist and listing every Agenda owned by that Machinist. Upon doing so, that Machinist achieves victory.

Changing how ties resolve. As written, if two players achieve their goals around the same time, both get to DoV and the group is free to vote a little tactically on which of those declarations gets to pass first.

This says that such a tiebreak has to be resolved within the game - and also that a player with three completed Agendas will unambiguously win against a player with only two.

Comments

SingularByte: he/him

21-07-2023 10:11:35 UTC

I think I’m missing something here. How will a machinist know how many agendas their opponents have succeeded at, and whether or not they’ve successfully knocked someone down from two completed agendas down to one?

If there’s no way of a player knowing whether anyone else is at 2 mastery, they’re just going to declare victory without knowing that the rules disallow them from doing so.

Kevan: City he/him

21-07-2023 10:24:58 UTC

Oh, good point, I guess I was building off the idea that these were somehow public if we were expected to vote on DoVs about them.

Which is the wider problem of any victory condition based on Emperor-distributed information needing careful handling. Even if somebody does choose to optionally quote their Agendas when DoVing under the current rule, voters would be prudent to wait for the Emperor to confirm that yes, that player did actually those Agendas and hasn’t misread or misquoted them, or mixed them up with the Agendas that they submitted, etc.

I’ll think about an edit.

Kevan: City he/him

21-07-2023 10:41:44 UTC

Okay, I’ve switched this around to make it into “Great Machine makes an announcement post, which triggers victory” process.

SingularByte: he/him

21-07-2023 16:06:49 UTC

for

lemon: she/her

21-07-2023 20:34:17 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

21-07-2023 21:59:52 UTC

for

Bucky:

23-07-2023 03:23:20 UTC

for