Wednesday, October 13, 2021

Proposal: Clatocian Standoff

Unpopular with Redtara voting AGAINST from the Earthlink Zone. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 14 Oct 2021 21:35:51 UTC

Remove “If ever Katelyn Dubose’s location is the Zone represented by the rule Earthlink then she and her Punk-Neo-mutualists attempt to invade Earth; any Citizen whose location is the same Zone and who possesses at least one Toolbox or EMP Grenade has achieved Victory.” from the rule “Security”.

To the end of the “Earthlink” rule’s Zone Rule, add a paragraph break and then:-

Prevent the Rebellion: A Citizen occupying the Earthlink and carrying a Toolbox or EMP Grenade will automatically Overclock the Accelerator, if they outgun every other Citizen occupying the Earthlink, and if Katelyn Dubose is occupying the Earthlink. (A Citizen with a Blaster outguns everyone who does not have a Blaster; a Citizen with a Taser outguns everyone who has neither a Blaster nor a Taser.) The first Citizen to Overclock the Accelerator prevents the Punk-Neo-mutualists from invading Earth: that Citizen achieves victory. Katelyn Dubose cannot Overclock the Accelerator herself.

Blundering in with a tiebreaker, if nobody else is going to suggest one. We should probably avoid the possible endgame where multiple players meet the victory criteria in the same Time Advance.

This moves the Earthlink victory condition up to the Earthlink rule, and tiebreaks on “have the best gun” (with a standoff if tied, which can only be resolved by someone leaving). Acting security chief Josh currently has a veto here, as this proposal would modify the Security Zone.


Zack: he/him

13-10-2021 16:56:23 UTC

Two things, 1) As written, you also have to outgun Katelyn, I can’t tell if that was intentional 2) There is no tie breaker for two Citizens who both have a blaster.

Also this is nitpicky but I don’t think you need the parenthesis on that second sentence.

Brendan: he/him

13-10-2021 17:07:10 UTC

I’d vote for this if it also had a provision to give me a blaster.

Kevan: Drone he/him

13-10-2021 17:20:51 UTC

[Zack] 1) It wasn’t, I’d forgotten she might raid caches on the way up. Maybe that’s interesting, though, if the gun she’s carrying shows how much she mistrusts the building’s staff?

2) That’s “standoff if tied, which can only be resolved by someone leaving”, which can happen in a few ways. But propose another tiebreaker instead, if you like.

Parentheses are useful when a rule wants to make a quick aside of “this is what this term means; but anyway, back to the main mechanic”, I think. It’s easier for a reader to scan the rule.

[Brendan] I am but a humble Drone, I’m raising this more as a reminder that we need a tiebreaker, than something I’m dead set on and willing to negotiate. Vote with your heart.

Josh: he/him

13-10-2021 18:03:32 UTC

As a loyal servant of the Clatocian Colony government I’m dismayed that this flips the action from foiling Katelyn to enabling her.

Zack: he/him

13-10-2021 18:07:18 UTC

It’s just occurred to me that whether one outguns someone is a passive condition, not an action that you have to do against each player in the Earthlink, so that makes more sense now. Also just noticed a typo, “not a Taser” should be “nor a taser”.

Kevan: Drone he/him

13-10-2021 18:24:30 UTC

[Josh] Oh, huh, I thought “Punks attempt to invade Earth, nearby Citizens win” meant they were joining the invasion. Proposal now flipped to a foiling narrative.


13-10-2021 20:18:57 UTC

More of these gun superiority proposals? What about whomever has the most toolboxes in the zone wins the tie?  against


13-10-2021 20:27:36 UTC


Josh: he/him

13-10-2021 20:28:58 UTC

I agree with TyGuy and nominate him to propose it against

Brendan: he/him

13-10-2021 21:05:06 UTC


Kevan: Drone he/him

14-10-2021 21:24:40 UTC

My mistake in the flavour text: Josh is Acting Defence Controller, not Head of Security. His AGAINST vote does not make it Unpopular, but Chiiika’s would.

Zack: he/him

14-10-2021 21:26:51 UTC


Kevan: Drone he/him

14-10-2021 21:30:29 UTC

... Redtara’s AGAINST vote would also make the proposal Unpopular at this point.

redtara: they/them

14-10-2021 21:34:47 UTC


redtara: they/them

14-10-2021 21:35:49 UTC

Despite myself having a blaster :’(

redtara: they/them

14-10-2021 21:37:01 UTC

Despite myself having a blaster :’(