Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Proposal: Clean your Plate

4 to 2 after 48 hours. Enacted by Derrick.

Adminned at 18 Mar 2017 13:03:21 UTC

In “Habitat”, remove:

a terrain feature may be said to “supply” a type of nutrient.

Brine Pools supply Gonium. Vents supply Micronium

Change

Each Cell of the Habitat contains zero or more “Terrain Features”

The following Terrain Features are known to exist:

  Crevice (represented as c)
  Reef (represented as r)
  Vent (represented as v)
  Skeleton (represented as s)
  Brine Pool (represented as p)
  Large Rock Outcropping (represented as o)

to

Each Cell of the Habitat contains zero or more “Terrain Features”. The following Terrain Features are known to exist:

  Crevice (represented as c).
  Reef (represented as r). Supplies Blonium.
  Vent (represented as v). Supplies Micronium.
  Skeleton (represented as s). Supplies Nonium.
  Brine Pool (represented as p). Supplies Gonium.
  Large Rock Outcropping (represented as o).

In “Anatomy”, remove the bullet point for Beak. Change all Organs currently in the Beak state to the Amorphous state.

We have two separate nutrient-gaining methods, and I think it might be reasonable to simplify by getting rid of the lesser-used one.

Comments

Cuddlebeam:

03-15-2017 22:48:20 UTC

Would upvote, going to wait though.

Oracular rufio:

03-15-2017 22:53:03 UTC

So skeletons will be useful, but micronium will not (except for state morphing).  But you’re right, the amount of nutrients we can get from a reef now is pretty pitiful since Massive Appetite.  We’ll come up with something else for micronium to do.

for

Cuddlebeam:

03-15-2017 22:57:54 UTC

for Because its locked now anyways.

card:

03-15-2017 23:55:19 UTC

for Seems good to me.

Cuddlebeam:

03-16-2017 01:07:41 UTC

It’s unfortunately locked but:

This
“a terrain feature may be said to “supply” a type of nutrient.

Brine Pools supply Gonium. Vents supply Miconium”

May actually not exist in the ruleset, because of the Micronium CfJ. So it wouldn’t be there to remove.

Since I don’t know what would happen when a passes proposal attempts something impossible:

against CoV

Cuddlebeam:

03-16-2017 01:08:05 UTC

a passed proposal*

Oracular rufio:

03-16-2017 02:14:17 UTC

I thought about that, but since your CFJs specify that “Miconium” and “Micronium” are synonymous (retroactively, even!) I think we’re ok.

Oracular rufio:

03-16-2017 02:15:23 UTC

Besides, nothing breaks if we fail to remove that part of the rule.  The same information will just be stated twice now.

Cuddlebeam:

03-16-2017 05:35:02 UTC

Yes, but if that passes before this one, then the quote

“a terrain feature may be said to “supply” a type of nutrient.

Brine Pools supply Gonium. Vents supply Miconium”

Actually doesn’t exist. This one:

“a terrain feature may be said to “supply” a type of nutrient.

Brine Pools supply Gonium. Vents supply Micronium”

Would exist. And the retroactiveness changes all past instances, it doesn’t protect against any future ones, like this one could be if it passes after my CfJ.

pokes:

03-16-2017 10:23:46 UTC

As part of the CfJ we agree that Miconium and Micronium are synonymous, and as such I’d think “Vents supply Miconium” and “Vents supply Micronium” are synonymous, and so on, up to a whole paragraph involving one or the other.

If an admin did the replacement regardless, would anyone raise a CfJ about it?

derrick:

03-16-2017 13:26:54 UTC

against On the grounds of keeping things interesting. Eating with the beak is actually more lucrative than eating with the stomach, the stomach is just continually on alert.

Kevan:

03-17-2017 12:05:03 UTC

for Because this game has too much stuff.

[pokes] The ruleset only clarifies this for proposals (“Once a proposal has been enacted, it can have no further direct effect on the gamestate.”), but the same should go for CfJs. It would be unfair to have a conspiratorial CfJ of “victory and toast are synonyms from now on” and for one of us to use that to win three years from now, against players who’d never seen it.

“Miconium” in this proposal is now an obvious typo for “Micronium”, though, and can be corrected by the proposer at any time.

pokes:

03-17-2017 21:17:19 UTC

Miconium has been changed to Micronium in the proposal.