fuck off

first off, you were illegally un-idled due to how the wording of how idle rules work

secondly, due to the fact that you never learned the task of “how to properly communicate with others like a normal human being” you never once tried to do something reasonable like point out in slack where you asked to be unidle. instead, you just ignored the rules that clearly state that the sidebar is what tracks who is idle and who isn’t and tried to prevent like you were a vampie lord even though the rules stated you weren’t.

so yeah. fuck off. you single handled made this whole dynasty a shitty experience with your toxic personality. so please. fuck all the way off.

p.s. maybe if you hadn’t tried to use a core rules scam where you asked to be idled in a month old post so no one could easily find where you asked to be idled you wouldn’t have gotten into this mess in the first place

just a suggestion for the next time you try and pull a stunt like this.

I pointed out where I asked to be idled on the comments to the same post where I asked to be unidled. Isn’t that the most obvious place to check?

The sidebar tracks who is idle and unidle. If it’s illegally edited, that doesn’t actually idle or unidle someone – that just means that the tracking list is inaccurate. (If you could idle people by illegally editing the sidebar, that would lead to a trivial dictatorship scam.) In particular, you can’t illegally edit the sidebar and then use that as a basis for claiming that someone’s posts were made illegally – the legality is based on whether the player is actually idle, not based on whether the sidebar shows them as idle.

Also, there wasn’t a mess here until you decided to create one.

all you did was go “the unidling was legal, it was 4 days after the *request* (which is what the rules care about), even though it was less than 4 days after the idling itself”. No actual reference to any posts anywhere

if someone is idled illegally, they are still idle until that edit is redone. you were idle when you tried to post your CfJ. both because you were not listed in the sidebar, and because Kevan’s move to unidle you was improperly performed due to how the unidling rules worked.

so yeah. stop projecting and fuck off.

For what it’s worth, Clucky and I had a long Slack conversation about this incident which may be worth reading; it started off badly but became much more reasonable over time.

Yeah I’m not reading that

Probably a good call

Anyways the fact remains that all the actions I took were simply me following my understanding as my role as an admin, and even if you disagree with those actions enough that you think I should’ve behaved differently jumping straight to “de-admin clucky” is incredibly aggressive and absurd

At some point we will want to have a post-mortem about how the atmosphere of this dynasty became so toxic, particularly as relates to the interactions between ais and Clucky and ais and myself, and the impact it had on the majority of players who were non-participants in that dynamic; probably best to do it well away from the fact, however.

As far as I’m concerned, Clucky remains an admin in good standing, and “de-admin Clucky” is a move with approximately as much legitimacy as “ban ais” - which is to say, none.

Slack is a significant part of the problem. It’s not a good medium for amicable conversation about a long game with emotional stakes.