Friday, March 17, 2017

Call for Judgment: Combo Breaker

Self-Killed. Failed by Derrick
Re-opened by Kevan, CfJs can’t be self-killed.
Fails 0-5. — Quirck

Adminned at 20 Mar 2017 07:08:30 UTC

Cuddlebeam’s large set of actions performed around 8am March 17 were plausibly not legal. Roll back the game state to that of March 17, 7:30.


Oracular rufio:

03-17-2017 16:21:04 UTC

for Although if this is not practical for the admins, I would also be in favor of just removing all of Cuddlebeams eggs and nutrients, and restoring the statoliths nutrients to what Cuddlebeam says they were before all this nonsense happened.


03-17-2017 16:39:25 UTC

Rolling back the wiki is easy. Rolling back the GNDT is not something I know how to do, though I don’t think anyone has messed with the GNDT since the massive changes, and this CfJ certainly doesn’t encourage anymore to be made—it will erase any moves made since when it is enacted. That may be intentional

I don’t think the move was legal at all. Not sure if this is the best way to fix it.


03-17-2017 16:47:45 UTC

The GNDT at least tracks the previous state (in the “was X”) so it’s not as trivial as the wiki but if the only players that had a state change were Cuddlebeam and Viv then it might not be too bad to track backwards.

It certainly doesn’t encourage any moves to be made but as hard as undoing the combo is, if it has to be undone somehow, imagine undoing the combo and then somehow redoing the actions made on top of it. We can’t really know if actions performed now are contingent on the post-combo state.

Oracular rufio:

03-17-2017 16:49:30 UTC

Well they did give various organs nutrients for some unknown reason, so those were changed as well.


03-17-2017 16:53:35 UTC



03-17-2017 17:08:09 UTC

for lets get this over with quickly.


03-17-2017 18:40:08 UTC

against “Game state” would include all proposals, CfJs and votes, wouldn’t it?


03-17-2017 18:41:03 UTC

against I believe it would.


03-17-2017 18:45:24 UTC

against Good point.

Oracular rufio:

03-17-2017 18:51:03 UTC

against goddammit


03-18-2017 12:31:11 UTC

against CoV