Monday, October 10, 2022

Proposal: Crust

Popular 3-0 with Quorum in favor. -Bucky

Adminned at 11 Oct 2022 06:01:32 UTC

Add the following to the end of the rule Mantle Limitations [Active]:

This limitation does not apply to proposals that would explicitly award Victory.

Comments

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

10-10-2022 15:39:08 UTC

for

Bucky:

10-10-2022 16:14:52 UTC

I think this is intended to mean something equivalent to amending the first sentence to “The mantle may not be passed, unless the Baron who won was awarded victory by a proposal.” but I’m not certain that’s what Josh meant.

Josh: Observer he/they

10-10-2022 16:22:12 UTC

It’s mostly just intended to exclude any possibility of a perceived subtext that this rule might apply to chop proposals.

Or, indeed, other proposals - if Mantle Limitations prohibits chops then why doesn’t it prohibit other proposals that make victory conditions, especially if those conditions favour a player or subset of players over others?

lendunistus: he/him

10-10-2022 18:04:41 UTC

FYI this proposal’s illegal since it doesn’t have the special case tag

Josh: Observer he/they

10-10-2022 18:09:42 UTC

Doesn’t need it

lendunistus: he/him

10-10-2022 18:21:21 UTC

“Votable Matters require the “[Core]” tag in order to make changes to the Core Rules, the “[Special Case]” tag in order to make changes to the Special Case Rules , and the “[Appendix]” tag in order to make changes to the Appendix Rules.“

Josh: Observer he/they

10-10-2022 18:25:48 UTC

Now read the rest of the rule, especially the bullet points at the end

Kevan: he/him

10-10-2022 18:28:14 UTC

[lendunistus] We added a couple exceptions because of players forgetting to add the tags.

They are good practice, though, for reminding admins to check for quorum if the proposal times out, and so that the posts catch the eye of idle lurkers who might like to know that something outside of dynastic could be being changed in their absence.

lendunistus: he/him

10-10-2022 18:51:14 UTC

oh, I’m dumb

Josh: Observer he/they

10-10-2022 18:52:09 UTC

Nah, you’re good - that rule is very oddly written, it feels a bit like it’s contradicting itself.

Bucky:

10-10-2022 21:14:32 UTC

Note that this change doesn’t affect the Pizza-Pie, which adds a rule instead of awarding victory.

Bucky:

10-10-2022 22:43:01 UTC

for I guess, because the next proposal is conditional on this, even though I think this needs to be redone properly.