BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

I’d be happier if the proposal defined “Permanent” and “Transient”, especially since “Permanent” seems not to mean what I would have naively thought.

(But I like the idea.)

  It does define Permanent; it’s a flag for GNDT columns. It also defines Transient; it’s the opposite of Permanent.

We know the valence of Permanent: it applies to GNDT fields. But it isn’t defined to do anything, and the name doesn’t apparently fit (a Permanent field changes, so is not permanent).

In my view, if the “Suck it Up” proposal passes, both terms would be Hooks.

No, the name doesn’t fit with the dictionary definition, but it’s obviously a keyword defined by a rule, and thus according to rule 3.1 overrides the normal English usage.

As for affect, no, it doesn’t do anything yet. It’s merely there to allow other proposals to leap off of it; it’s a “hook” in the standard definition, but not, in my opinion, according to Suck It Up.

(This, by the way, is a good argument to vote against Suck It Up; if it passes, there will be much arguing over what is and is not a hook.)

A permanent column is one which isn’t reset by dying.  Seems clear enough to me.

@Wooble: You’re right, I didn’t read it carefully enough.

@Darth Cliche: Ditto.

Making Death not permanent violates the fundamental tenet of NetHack!

coppro: So if you die, you should have to sit out the entire fucking dynasty?

Besides, the idea here is that you start a new character.

AND DO NOT IDLE VOTE.

DC: relax man.

DEATH TO IDLE VOTES.

Assuming there are eventually stats for race, name and class, they should all be reset at death to reflect the new character part.

or alignment

Death wipes your character’s stats, that’s pretty permanent. It doesn’t wipe the player’s stats, though.

for proper this time.

I’ve died hundreds of times in Nethack myself.