Thursday, July 31, 2025

Proposal: Signal On

Fewer than a quorum not voting AGAINST. Failed 2 votes to 7 by Kevan.

Adminned at 02 Aug 2025 16:45:30 UTC

Remove “A Truck may change its own Operating Status at any time during the Prep Phase.” from “Food Trucks”

Add “Each Truck has a Privately Tracked Signal, defaults to Open, and may be either Open or Closed. A Truck may change their Signal at any time as a Virtual Action” to “Food Trucks”

If there is not a step in the Night action called “Refresh” add it. Then set the content of the “Refresh” step to be “Set the Operating Status of all Trucks to be their Signal”

Forcing you to declare you want to close prior to the start of a round, so that it doesn’t turn into a game of chicken during the prep phase where potentially we could run into a situation where truck A only wants to be open if truck B is closed and vice versa.

Please note that if this passes, you won’t be able to change your OS for the current round. This isn’t intended to be a scam but rather just an side effect of cleaning up. Should be a good window to adjust your OS prior to this passage

Comments

eternalservererror:

31-07-2025 21:59:24 UTC

I do like this but it’d break Fixtures and Fittings if that Proposal has been enacted.  against

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

31-07-2025 22:23:42 UTC

against

Clucky: he/him

31-07-2025 22:47:04 UTC

How will it break Fixtures and Fittings?

Dark simply won’t be a valid signal, so you can’t go straight to dark.

eternalservererror:

31-07-2025 23:08:48 UTC

Okay, I follow now. I’m having trouble keeping things straight between proposals and the ruleset. CoV.  for

eternalservererror:

31-07-2025 23:11:39 UTC

Actually, CoV. I don’t want to be locked in before I have a chance to read the Tally Up post. against

Kevan: Yard he/him

01-08-2025 08:21:19 UTC

I don’t follow how allowing a secret next-day default resolves the “truck A only wants to be open if truck B is closed” situation. Both trucks will want to wait and see whether the other closes during the new day, won’t they, rather than telling the Yard in advance that they want to Close immediately at the very start of that day?

I wouldn’t characterise this situation as a game of chicken, as nothing is forcing an outcome. It’s just a stalemate where neither wants to act. I’d expect two Trucks who were in that situation to recognise it as such, and to reach and honour some private agreement (as happened in the Castaway dynasty).

Kevan: Yard he/him

01-08-2025 09:06:27 UTC

Ah, I misread this, you’re removing the ability to Close in real time so it would remove the option to close during the day. Fair enough then.

imperial Asking players to decide whether they want to Close in the next round before they’ve seen the results of the current one might be a bit heavy, just to head off this potential stalemate.

Don’t forget that we have the “(Today Only:)” option to delay rule changes that would affect the current round.

Darknight: he/him

01-08-2025 13:58:04 UTC

against

arthexis: he/him

01-08-2025 18:04:25 UTC

against

DoomedIdeas: he/him

01-08-2025 20:36:58 UTC

against

Chiiika: she/her

02-08-2025 06:55:18 UTC

against

Vovix: he/him

02-08-2025 08:06:51 UTC

I like the idea of locking in open status rather than having it publicly tracked, though I agree that it’d be better to have it locked in after seeing the results of the previous round. Symbolic for in support of revising.

JonathanDark: he/him

02-08-2025 14:56:24 UTC

Ah, that’s right, we don’t have the Revisions Allowed anymore.

Probably better to against and force the revision sooner rather than later.