Tuesday, December 18, 2012

Proposal: Re-enlightened

Self-killed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 20 Dec 2012 11:59:57 UTC

If there is no rule called “Enlightenment” create one. Replace the text of the rule “Enlightenment” with

As a weekly action, a Cult’s Leader may attempt an Enlightenment by Command which begins with the text “My brood is most well!”

Upon processing such Command, the Auspex should deem it successful if the sender’s cult contains less Believers than the average (arithmetic mean) number of Believers in all Cults. Otherwise, the Auspex may deem the Enlightenment unsuccessful.

If the Auspex deems an Enlightenment successful, he should:
* Reply to the Enlightenment with a confirmation of its success; and
* Increase the Blessings of its sender by twice the number of members in their cult.

When the Auspex deems an Enlightenment unsuccessful, he should make a blog post exposing the Enlightenment which:
* Names the sender, but not the name or size of their cult; and
* Chastises the sender for their hubris.

Same basic idea as SPC’s post. But two key changes—first, cults can do it weekly rather than people, and secondly in order to “win” your cult’s size has to be less than average. This adds more secrecy as you don’t know how big average is, and also lets us still encourage smaller cults by some other means.


Josh: he/they

18-12-2012 20:10:52 UTC



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18-12-2012 22:04:19 UTC

against Why encourage small cults? The flavour would seem to encourage the opposite!

quirck: he/him

18-12-2012 22:11:55 UTC


Kevan: he/him

18-12-2012 22:46:33 UTC

against Borderline, but this is slightly on the grindy side. Having your name publicly associated with a large but unnamed Cult just doesn’t seem that much of a drawback, in which case everyone may as well just try for Enlightenment every week, just in case.


18-12-2012 23:38:59 UTC


Kevan, costs can be added. I agree it would be good.

Clucky, would you agree that transferring is vital to the process?

RaichuKFM: she/her

18-12-2012 23:44:25 UTC

against I dislike this mechanic.


19-12-2012 00:58:29 UTC

against what if someone is leader of multiple cults?


19-12-2012 08:41:03 UTC


Clucky: he/him

19-12-2012 20:59:48 UTC

@scshunt if someone is the leader of multiple cults I don’t see why they shouldn’t be able to benefit from leading multiple cults…


19-12-2012 21:14:12 UTC

@Clucky, then, two people could create 4 different cults, and gain 4 enlightenments. Infinite blessings.


19-12-2012 23:26:38 UTC

@Clucky: then “the sender’s cult” is ambiguous.

Kevan: he/him

20-12-2012 12:17:23 UTC

Reading this again, it seems problematic that this penalises any Leaders who’ve done well enough to expand their Cult beyond one person, and unbalanced that dumbly pressing the “Enlightenment” button pays twice as well as cleverly unmasking a two-person Cult through an accurate Inquisition.

Josh: he/they

20-12-2012 12:18:28 UTC

Good point. CoV against

Clucky: he/him

20-12-2012 19:57:36 UTC

fair enough against