Tuesday, August 29, 2006

Proposal: Enter the Buckybot

Justly vetoed.—Kevan

Adminned at 29 Aug 2006 20:20:50 UTC

[ Maybe we need a robot to keep us on our toes while Bucky’s away… ]

Enact a new rule, “The Buckybot”:-

The Buckybot’s votes are counted for the purposes of the “Enactment” rule, but the bot is not a Musician and does not affect the value of quorum.

If the Buckybot has not voted on a specific proposal, any Musician may roll 2DICE6 in the GNDT to see how the Buckybot votes on it. If the first die rolls a 1 or 2, the Buckybot votes FOR. If it rolls 3 or 4, the Buckybot votes DEFERENTIAL. If it rolls 5 or 6, the Buckybot votes AGAINST.

The Buckybot also comments according to the result of the second die:-

  1. No comment.
  2. Please continue.
  3. This does not affect my plans.
  4. This doesn’t achieve anything.
  5. This is scammable.
  6. This vote has no purpose.

The Musician who rolled the dice should then make a voting comment on the relevant proposal, with the text “Buckybot says…” followed by the rolled voting icon, followed by the rolled comment, with no other content. Such a comment counts as the Buckybot’s vote rather than the vote of the posting Musician.

If a Musician rolls the dice for the Buckybot but does not post the matching voting comment within an hour, any other Musician may set the offending Musician’s Instrument to anything they feel like.

posted by Kevan at 29 Aug 2006 16:12:00 UTC Comments (9)

Comments

Cosmologicon:

29-08-2006 16:15:47 UTC

against

Bucky:

29-08-2006 16:27:39 UTC

BuckyBot says…  against This is scammable.

Bucky:

29-08-2006 16:29:38 UTC

Also, it should be “Roll DICE6 twice” not “Roll 2DICE6” because there is no way of telling the die rolls apart.

Thelonious:

29-08-2006 16:34:16 UTC

I like the idea but…

1) I don’t like the “or else” paragraph at the end.  Adding the vote within 5 minutes (not an hour) should be mandatory.  Rolling for the Buckybot within the last 5 minutes should be banned.

2) There’s a timing window.  Lots of musician’s can roll the dice before any has posted the result.  Then, all are allowed to post the result.

3) It isn’t clear which dice roll in the GNDT are for the purpose of BuckyBot.  If a musician didn’t get the roll they wanted, they could just roll again and claim “the last set of rolls were just ‘cos I fancied rolling some dice”.  You should require a comment to accompany the roll and state that all such rolls are binding for a subsequent vote.

4) You could consider making Buckybot votes invalid on proposals where Bucky has voted.

Thelonious:

29-08-2006 16:37:31 UTC

Oops, I forgot to vote.

against because of 1-3.  You almost get a veto beacuse of 2 but perhaps I’ve misunderstood so I’ll hold off for now in case there are any redeeming comments.

Bucky:

29-08-2006 16:42:40 UTC

Worse on 1)
A Musician can make as many BuckyBot rolls as e wants before posting any, then post any FORs, accepting the consquences of having eir instrument changed in order to quorum out their proposal.

Thelonious:

29-08-2006 16:44:20 UTC

veto

Angry Grasshopper:

30-08-2006 00:57:18 UTC

Oh my! Genius and wit. ;)

Kevan: he/him

30-08-2006 02:00:31 UTC

Fair catches on this.

How would you intend “mandatory” to work, though, Thelonious? That the player could take no other game actions until they’d performed the mandatory action? I didn’t want to go that far in case something happened to prevent the player from being able to vote (such as someone else closing the proposal), and an unavoidable instrument change seemed like the biggest penalty I could invoke in-game, without bolting on new game terms.