Tuesday, July 12, 2016

Call for Judgment: Finish enactment

Times out 4-0. Resolved by Brendan.

Adminned at 14 Jul 2016 22:54:46 UTC

WHEREAS, during the enactment of the proposal “Energy to Burn”, this phrase was overlooked:

Unless a majority of EVCs on this proposal contain the phrase “Free Movement”, change “35 Energy” to “20 Energy” in the rule “Derelicts”

Change “35 Energy” to “20 Energy” in the rule “Derelicts”.

Comments

Larrytheturtle:

12-07-2016 00:41:34 UTC

Whoops, sorry about that. Can I legally just finish enacting it? I mean I don’t see a time limit placed on it in the ruleset(it’s hard to check on mobile though).

Clucky: he/him

12-07-2016 16:39:05 UTC

according to raichu no you can’t even though for the rest of the history of blognomic you’ve been able to…

Larrytheturtle:

12-07-2016 16:50:46 UTC

His point is kinda separate though. He says there is no clause to fix an illegal action. There is a clause saying I can edit it when I enact a proposal and there is no time limit set saying that I can’t finish enacting.

RaichuKFM: she/her

12-07-2016 16:59:51 UTC

Following precedent, contra what the Ruleset actually allows, means we’re playing a Nomic wrong.

Following precedent when the Ruleset is ambiguous, asks for clarification.

You explicitly can’t edit the Ruleset except in ways the Ruleset allows. The Ruleset doesn’t allow for undoing illegal edits to itself. We should probably fix this? But the last fix was a bust, because, well, legally being allowed to revert “improper” edits of any sort is uh. Broken. (You were right about me being wrong about the Ruleset reflecting gamestate, instead of actually being it, but, the improper thing is still kinda a big problem.

As for whether finishing up a Proposal enactment late, I think that’s allowable, because it arguably isn’t disallowed, by the ruleset proper?

Whereas, removing someone’s vandalism by fiat is.

RaichuKFM: she/her

12-07-2016 17:02:24 UTC

for I guess because even though I think the CfJ is unnecessary it really can’t hurt.

Bucky:

12-07-2016 17:26:30 UTC

RaichuKFM: “As for whether finishing up a Proposal enactment late, I think that’s allowable, because it arguably isn’t disallowed, by the ruleset proper?”

Actually, you’re explicitly supposed to do all the changes before marking the proposal Enacted.

RaichuKFM: she/her

12-07-2016 17:27:23 UTC

...Oh, right.

Yeah, CfJ’s probably the cleanest way of doing this, then.

qwertyu63:

12-07-2016 19:48:33 UTC

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Brendan: he/him

12-07-2016 20:04:45 UTC

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