Tuesday, November 15, 2022

Proposal: Forearmed

Timed out 4 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 17 Nov 2022 18:34:12 UTC

Add a bullet point after the second one in the rule “Turns”:-

* If the date is on or after December 4th 2022 and a single Group has more Stamps than every other Group (where a Group’s Stamps are the total of all of those in the Stamp Collections of Visitors it controls), then that Group achieves victory. The Group may announce upon declaring victory that a Visitor it controls has become the Heir to the park.

Revisiting Bucky’s stamps-as-goal Win By Stamp Collecting, but with a simpler “most stamps wins”.

Comments

Bucky:

15-11-2022 19:35:32 UTC

Three criticisms.

First, the technical one: it looks like a turn boundary will fall on early December 4th during a time when few players tend to be on, with a significant chance of a lead change resulting in two players achieving victory in the span of a couple of hours in a way that requires the immediate participation of neither. The victory condition should be constructed to avoid that kind of DoV race.

Second, the flavor one: it has been the intent since the ascension address, reinforced with the original victory proposal, that the win be awarded to an individual Visitor rather than equally shared within a Group.

Finally, the gameplay one: This flattens the various stamps’ values too much, they should not be considered interchangeable.

Kevan: he/him

15-11-2022 19:47:33 UTC

Criticisms, is it.

This is part of the Advance the Queues action, so will only occur after the lead change has happened.

Flavour has now been added to encourage the winner to nominate one of their Visitors as the Heir.

I wouldn’t mind seeing an amendment to give a curve of values, but your original proposal considered all non-Z Stamps to be interchangeable.

Bucky:

15-11-2022 20:08:35 UTC

I plan to DEF this, and propose a different formula if it passes.

Bucky:

16-11-2022 01:21:44 UTC

imperial

JonathanDark: he/him

17-11-2022 07:25:36 UTC

against  let’s just rewrite from scratch

Kevan: he/him

17-11-2022 11:52:47 UTC

This is taking it back to the basic idea of “game ends on a certain date and stamps are important”, which seems okay to me, but building it back up differently.

Darknight: he/him

17-11-2022 14:14:26 UTC

for

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

17-11-2022 14:19:27 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

17-11-2022 14:37:42 UTC

against