Saturday, July 02, 2011

Proposal: Hiatus Proposal Timeout

Fails 1-9 with Quorum against. -Bucky

Adminned at 03 Jul 2011 10:50:57 UTC

Before the paragraph

Whenever an Admin marks a proposal, CfJ, or DoV as enacted or failed, they must also mark their name, and report the final tally of Votes (or the fact that it was self-killed or vetoed).

in rule 1.6 Resolution of Proposals, insert the following paragraph:

Notwithstanding the above lists, no proposal may be resolved in the 12 hours immediately following the end of hiatus. No proposal that was proposed less than 12 hours before hiatus began may be resolved until 24 hours after the end of hiatus. Neither of the previous two sentences apply to a vetoed proposal.

Some months ago, the rules were changed to allow votes on proposals during hiatus. This was to eliminate confusion as to which votes were valid. An unintended consequence of this is that proposals can timeout during hiatus (note that they still may not be adminned).

Comments

aguydude:

07-02-2011 01:41:07 UTC

I think you should have replaced “vetoed” with “vetoed or self-killed.”

Abstaining for now to give everyone else time to point out holes.

scshunt:

07-02-2011 02:07:41 UTC

against

This slows the game down unnecessarily. Sure, proposals can time out during Hiatus, but there’s no real issue with that. People should just continue to vote during Hiatus.

Ienpw III:

07-02-2011 02:09:57 UTC

The only reason I made the exemption for vetoed proposals was to make way for new proposals at the beginning of a dynasty.

Klisz:

07-02-2011 02:16:19 UTC

against per coppro.

scshunt:

07-02-2011 02:18:52 UTC

And yet in some dynasties the initial proposal will be adopted within hours, as may be several subsequent proposals. Especially after a slow dynasty moving into one that looks interesting as a number of people may unidle and inflate the active player ratio.

Ienpw III:

07-02-2011 03:48:32 UTC

Proposals can’t be adopted within twelve hours of being proposed anyway, coppro.

Galtori:

07-02-2011 06:04:48 UTC

imperial

mideg:

07-02-2011 07:29:53 UTC

imperial

Wakukee:

07-02-2011 11:19:34 UTC

If you can vote during a hiatus, then it is fair to allow them to time out during hiatus. This makes sense.  against

Wakukee:

07-02-2011 11:20:44 UTC

Not that I can vote, being idle and all. I’ll resubmit this once I am active.

Bucky:

07-02-2011 21:36:42 UTC

against

Blacky:

07-03-2011 00:15:27 UTC

against

Yoda:

07-03-2011 00:19:53 UTC

imperial

SingularByte:

07-03-2011 07:05:10 UTC

imperial