Monday, September 30, 2019

Proposal: I can see clearly now

Reached quorum 4 votes to 1. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 02 Oct 2019 17:39:27 UTC

Repeal the paragraphs of the rule “Hallucinations” that begin “If a proposal has the tag…” and “A rule repealed by a Hallucinations proposal…”

I regret losing my nerve over killing off Hallucinations when I had the chance. The fact is, we’ve seen this retroactive minority-veto mechanism before: it was a source of tremendous power for the traitors (Josh and myself) back in Kevan XIII. It turned out to be a much more valuable tool for us than any other traitor-specific abilities, but more importantly, it’s likely to lead to people getting frustrated over crafting rules and cajoling them through a vote just to see them vaporized. That in turn means fewer proposals and less fun.

For what it’s worth, traitor-reading-this, I am going to come up with some consolation bonuses for you in a separate proposal.



30-09-2019 21:05:30 UTC


Kevan: he/him

30-09-2019 21:16:30 UTC

against I’ve been enjoying this mechanic for doing something different with the game, even if it is sometimes frustrating. And I think the flavour of it has been fun to unpack.

All it needs to defang is a way to increase the HSR of other players, so that a castaway claiming not to see the mountain is revealed as delusional and easily outvoted.


30-09-2019 21:33:21 UTC

I agree with Kevan; it has been fun. Wouldn’t like to see it be permanent, because of the downside Brendan mentions. But hey, it’s basically self destroying in a pinch, and new rules can get around it if they want to.

Kind of makes for a reductionist gamestate. Purer, in a way. Still, I leave it to you to decide.


01-10-2019 06:50:22 UTC


Kevan: he/him

01-10-2019 10:02:22 UTC

Worth noting that both pending Hallucinations right now are on course to fail. They aren’t all-powerful.


01-10-2019 11:40:37 UTC

against I like the mechanic.

Furthermore, I accuse Brendan of being traitorous: I don’t see what extra power it gives a traitor, but the comments are consistent with trying to explain a trade-in proposing a real power (a “consolation bonus”) in exchange for this illusory power.

Brendan: he/him

01-10-2019 21:34:10 UTC

And I accuse pokes of being traitorous for seizing on the first opportunity to accuse a traitor, etc, etc. (This is why I don’t like Werewolf.)