Wednesday, April 03, 2024

Proposal: It is a little bit about your feelings

Reached quorum, 4-1. Enacted by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 04 Apr 2024 22:31:09 UTC

In the rule Scoring, after “stating which of their own Private Criteria that Shot satisfies and does not satisfy”, add:

, and whether they find the Shot aesthetically pleasing or not, about which they must be honest

To the bulleted list in the same rule, add the following as a final bullet point:

If they found the Shot aesthetically pleasing they should increment the Score of its poster by 2.

Take pretty photos.

Comments

Kevan: City he/him

03-04-2024 12:38:27 UTC

I like the idea of rating aethetics, but not the bias of having self-interested players making the call. If I need the next photo to Satisfy my criteria to win an Award and/or the dynasty, that’s going to subconsciously influence my reaction when I see it.

And more cynically, as humans we all have some scope to control our feelings about something, at the point of publicly commenting on it. If someone posts a photo which at first blush seems very beautiful or ugly, but I need to score it as the opposite to win, I can spend time finding other levels on which to appreciate or dislike it, or setting up juxtapositions that change how I feel about it in context.

against

JonathanDark: he/him

03-04-2024 13:07:59 UTC

As much as I want to see only pretty pictures, I have to agree with Kevan.

against

Josh: he/they

03-04-2024 13:15:07 UTC

There’s LOADS of board games that rely on assessors making subjective judgements! The argument that players can’t be trusted to accurately report their own subjective experience, or to avoid suborning those judgements to gameplay outcomes, flies in the face of decades of development of social game design - not to mention that the reward being proposed for it is relatively minor.

Kevan: City he/him

03-04-2024 14:02:55 UTC

Some tactical fudging is still grist to the mill for that kind of social game, isn’t it? If in a game of Apples to Apples I’m clearly only one card away from winning, the judge can make a thing of trying not to pick my card, if they want to.

The main reward here is scoring private criteria, which can be the difference between attaining and ruining something like the final eighth step of Conceptual Balance.

Josh: he/they

03-04-2024 14:26:18 UTC

I agree that the main reward is private criteria - which is why I’m a little nonplused at the striping out of subjectivity from them.

Clucky: he/him

03-04-2024 16:37:27 UTC

for

NadNavillus: he/him

03-04-2024 21:38:50 UTC

for

Kevan: City he/him

04-04-2024 20:06:43 UTC

Ah, wait, I misread the first step of this as applying to invented private criteria! From the proposal title I assumed it was partly rolling back It’s Not About Your Feelings, with the 2 point bonus being a balance to it.

for then.