Monday, August 20, 2012

Proposal: Keeping Up Appearances

Open for 48 hours, fails 1-2. — Quirck

Adminned at 22 Aug 2012 01:13:14 UTC

Our Bakers in town have such varied abilities!
They need to show off their non-pie agility.
The first of these options, do not be mistaken.
Will be to remove the Hits they have taken.


1) In the rule currently called “Upgrades”, replace all text after the list of pie upgrade options with the following:

On a given day, if a Baker chooses not to take any of the above upgrade actions, they may perform exactly one of the following instead:

Reduce their Hits value by one, to a minimum of zero

If a Baker does not perform any of the above actions (Upgrades or otherwise) during a day, they gain one Empty Pie at the end of that day.

2) Rename the rule called “Upgrades” to “Pie Upgrades and Other Actions”.

This should have the same game effect as the auto-defense with Empty pies that I proposed earlier (spend one daily action in order to counteract one hit), but it makes the action an option rather than forced.

Comments

GreyWithAnE:

20-08-2012 02:32:37 UTC

Son of a gun!  That should obviously read “may perform,” not “make perform.”  If this seems like a good call to you folks, I’ll propose the correction.

GreyWithAnE:

20-08-2012 03:24:59 UTC

And the phrase before the blockquote should say “with the following” rather than “to the following”.  But since that isn’t text that will be added to the ruleset and the meaning is still clear, maybe it doesn’t have to be corrected?  I don’t know what the standard is for those kinds of things.

(I swear, proofreading and QA is part of my real-life job!  I guess that means I’ve got no typographical skills left for games…)

quirck: he/him

20-08-2012 09:01:37 UTC

“Bakers may correct obvious spelling and typographical mistakes in the Ruleset and their own Pending Proposals at any time, including replacing Spivak and gender-specific pronouns with the singular “they”.”

On a given day, if a Baker chooses not to take any of the above upgrade actions, they make perform exactly one of the following instead:

* Reduce their Hits value by one if it is greater than zero
* Gain one Empty Pie

Why not simpler?

And can I read “reduce by one, to a minimum of zero” as keep reducing by one, until the minimum is reached?

Cpt_Koen:

20-08-2012 09:04:29 UTC

1.1 Ruleset and Gamestate:
Bakers may correct obvious spelling and typographical mistakes in the Ruleset and their own Pending Proposals at any time, including replacing Spivak and gender-specific pronouns with the singular “they”.

However, it did cost me two upgrades to throw a pie in your face, so I would be pretty disappointed if you could wash it away that easily.

quirck: he/him

20-08-2012 09:17:37 UTC

Ah, my wording would destroy autopiemaking. Still sleeping :)

I agree with Cpt_Koen, washing away in one turn seems too quick.
against

Clucky: he/him

20-08-2012 17:26:51 UTC

Or like, add a towel pie. But I agree it shouldn’t be quite that easy to remove hits.

GreyWithAnE:

21-08-2012 04:08:00 UTC

Given that Cream Pies, and perhaps someday other damaging actions, look to become quite a bit easier to procure sooner or later (if not with the Creamatorium then certainly with something else someday), maybe one wipe-off per turn isn’t so bad.

Plus, if you get hit with 7 pies, it would still take a full week of actions to wipe it all away, during which you are not gaining any other pies or upgrades, or doing anything else fun.  That seems like a pretty big sacrifice to me.

Cpt_Koen:

21-08-2012 15:14:33 UTC

Well, I guess I’ll be against defence mechanism as long as we don’t know what’s the result of being hit by a Cream Pie!

Clucky: he/him

21-08-2012 17:34:27 UTC

explicit against

it takes a least two steps to hit someone, so why should it take one to wipe it off?

GreyWithAnE:

21-08-2012 17:49:58 UTC

Mostly because the one step you’d take to wipe it off also carries an opportunity cost that you’re not doing anything ELSE on that day.

But it does seem like I’m just in a different place on this than my fellow Bakers.