Thursday, April 17, 2008

Proposal: Let’s Try This [Evil] Bit Again

Times out 8-4.
1(20/4)=5
-Ornithopter

Adminned at 19 Apr 2008 14:22:17 UTC

I need to learn to not be so hasty when I concoct an evil plan. *evil grimace*

If this proposal is enacted, all Henchmen who voted FOR it shall have eir GL increased by a sum equal to the reciprocol of the number of Henchmen who voted AGAINST the proposal divided by the total number of active playing Henchmen (if no Henchmen voted AGAINST, substitute the number of playing Henchmen for this value). All Henchmen who voted AGAINST this proposal shall have eir GL decreased by the same sum. The final sum shall be rounded up if it is not an integer.

The Henchman “Dustin” shall also have his GL increased by 2.

Comment: Let ‘f’ be the number of Henchmen who voted against the proposal. Let ‘h’ be the total number of Henchmen. The result which shall be increased or decreased shall be -> x = 1 / ( a / h ) if at least one person voted against, otherwise x = 1 / ( h / h ) = 1

Being intellectually out-of-shape in the math department sucks. :)

Comments

Soyweiser: Idle

17-04-2008 19:48:33 UTC

against this proposal hurts my brain.

jay: Idle

17-04-2008 19:55:04 UTC

for

Dustin: Idle

17-04-2008 20:07:33 UTC

Basically if it passes, the people who voted for it score bigtime and the people who voted against get severely -PUNISHED-. The fewer the ‘against’ votes, the bigger the reward/punishment.

Yoda: Idle

17-04-2008 20:17:26 UTC

for You could have avoided the use of the reciprocal by flipping the fraction below the 1 and using it instead.

Dustin: Idle

17-04-2008 20:24:53 UTC

for I ought to have known that. I’m REALLY rusty if that never crossed my mind.

spikebrennan: Idle

17-04-2008 20:24:59 UTC

against

spikebrennan: Idle

17-04-2008 20:25:40 UTC

for 
COV
(um, I’d urge anyone who intends to vote for the proposal to do what I just did.)

Oze: Idle

17-04-2008 20:30:04 UTC

for

Dustin: Idle

17-04-2008 20:30:28 UTC

Doesn’t the previous vote not count?

jay: Idle

17-04-2008 20:50:54 UTC

COV - ?

dogfish: Idle

17-04-2008 21:57:20 UTC

yeah that reciprocal is pointless, its just x=h/a you know :).  for and also the proposal is very ambiguous, if it weren’t for the commenty italics bit (which does nothing anyway) it would have 2 different interpretations. It could be (1/a)/h=(1/ah)  or 1/(a/h)=(h/a).

Ornithopter: Idle

17-04-2008 21:59:47 UTC

against
I don’t like rewards for voting for proposals, and my GL’s already 0, so this costs me nothing.

Jay: Change of Vote

Dustin: No, the previous vote doesn’t count. You could interpret it to count, but then spikebrennan’s GL is increased and decreased by the final sum, and so stays the same. Your vote as the author, by the way, is automatically assumed to be “for”. You don’t have to make it explicit.

Doesn’t the text describe “x=(1/a)/f ” (which can’t be higher than one) rather than the formula in your comment? Currently, (1/2)/21=.02 vs. 1/(2/21)=10.5

Ornithopter: Idle

17-04-2008 22:00:39 UTC

Numbers at the end of my previous comment do not include dogfish’s vote.

arthexis: he/himIdle

17-04-2008 22:01:19 UTC

for

dogfish: Idle

17-04-2008 22:03:11 UTC

i think it describes both, Ornithopter and my GL’s 0 too so I’ll COV to against

jay: Idle

17-04-2008 22:03:24 UTC

per spikebrennan i change my vote to against and then i change my vote again to for

dogfish: Idle

17-04-2008 22:07:29 UTC

that COV does nothing, “If a Henchman casts more than one Vote on a Proposal, only the most recent of those Votes is counted.” so your old ones aren’t counted when you work out all that maths, surely? And also the more against votes you have the smaller the bonus is anyway?

jay: Idle

17-04-2008 22:19:22 UTC

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aaronwinborn: Idle

17-04-2008 22:20:21 UTC

against

Yoda: Idle

17-04-2008 22:57:28 UTC

against COV

Darknight: he/him

17-04-2008 23:18:39 UTC

for

jmrdex: Idle

18-04-2008 00:43:53 UTC

for

Beane: Idle

18-04-2008 04:18:04 UTC

Uh…
imperial

Ornithopter: Idle

18-04-2008 19:44:37 UTC

The four votes immediately preceding this one placed made during hiatus and are invalid.

<u>The Vote So Far</u>

<u>For (6)</u>
arthexis
Dustin (author)
jay
Oze
spikebrennan
Yoda

<u>Against (4)</u>
aaronwinborn
dogfish
Ornithopter
Soyweiser

<u>Deferential (0)</u>

<u>Not voting (8)</u>
Chivalrybean
Grey
Jack
Josh
Kevan
Masked Jedi
Purplebeard
Rodlen

Current maths:
(1/4)/21=.01
1/(4/21)=5.25

Dustin: Idle

18-04-2008 19:54:43 UTC

“Doesn’t the text describe “x=(1/a)/f “ (which can’t be higher than one) rather than the formula in your comment? Currently, (1/2)/21=.02 vs. 1/(2/21)=10.5 “

In my string of thought, if y the phrase would have had to have been:

“a sum equal to the reciprocol of the number of Henchmen who voted AGAINST the proposal, divided by the total number of active playing Henchmen”

The coma (or lack of it) changes the logical precedence. That’s how I parse it, anyhow.

However, I made a typo in the comment as you pointed out. In the commentary ‘f’ should have been ‘a’ or vice versa. It ought to have read “x=1/(a/h)”.

I just can’t keep the petty mistakes away, can I? :(

Dustin: Idle

18-04-2008 19:59:24 UTC

I can’t even get a comment without an error.

Correction: “In my string of thought, if you were right the phrase would have had to have been:”

Yoda: Idle

18-04-2008 20:53:40 UTC

against COV after the hiatus

Yoda: Idle

18-04-2008 20:54:09 UTC

I think you should just s/k this one since the math is causing so much of a problem.

Beane: Idle

18-04-2008 22:59:36 UTC

imperial resubmitted post hiatus

jmrdex: Idle

18-04-2008 23:57:23 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

19-04-2008 01:48:11 UTC

for i thought we did away with that clause during DoV’s. must have been CoJs only

Soyweiser: Idle

19-04-2008 15:59:59 UTC

for cov

Ornithopter: Idle

19-04-2008 16:36:41 UTC

<u>The Vote So Far</u>

<u>For (8)</u>
arthexis
darknight
Dustin (author)
jay
jmrdex
Oze
Soyweiser
spikebrennan

<u>Against (4)</u>
aaronwinborn
dogfish
Ornithopter
Yoda

<u>Deferential (1)</u>
Beane

<u>Not voting (8)</u>
Chivalrybean
Grey
Jack
Josh
Kevan
Masked Jedi
Purplebeard
Rodlen

Current maths:
(1/4)/21=.01
1/(4/21)=5.25