Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Proposal: More Routes To Take

Open for 48 hours, cannot be enacted (1-0). — Quirck

Adminned at 30 Aug 2012 10:42:22 UTC

Add the locations “Fruit Orchard”, “Pumpkin Patch”, and “Royal Ovens” to the list of locations.

Add “Cherry”, “Strawberry”, “Blueberry”, “Pumpkin” and “Spiced Pumpkin”, “Medley” and “Grand” to the list of pies.

Add “Input: 1 Empty Pie, Output: 1 Pumpkin Pie”, “Input: 1 Cherry Pie, 1 Blueberry Pie, 1 Strawberry Pie. Output: 1 Medley Pie.”, and “Input: 2 Pumpkin Pies. Output: 1 Spiced Pumpkin Pie” to the list of upgrades.

add the following before the last sentence of the rule “Locations”

If a Baker’s Location is the Fruit Orchard and possess at least one empty pie, when he performs the upgrade action instead of picking an upgrade he may choose to do the following (if he does so, it still counts as having performed the action, so is still ineligible to receive the free empty pie at the end of that day): spend 1 empty pie and roll a DICE3. If the result is a 1, gain a Cherry Pie. If the result is a 2, gain a Blueberry Pie, if the result is a 3, gain a Strawberry Pie.

If a Baker’s Location is the Pumpkin Patch, the upgrades “Input: 1 Empty Pie, Output: 2 Pumpkin Pies”, “Input: 2 Empty Pies, Output: 3 Pumpkin Pies” and “Input: 4 Empty Pies, Output: 4 Pumpkin Pies” all become available to that Baker when choosing an upgrade for the upgrade action. .

If a Baker’s Location is the Royal Ovens, the upgrade “Input: 1 Medley Pie, 1 Dutch Apple Pie, 1 Spiced Pumpkin Pie: Output: 1 Grand Pie” becomes available to that Baker when choosing an upgrade for the upgrade action. .

in the rule “Locations” replace

If a Baker’s Location is the Creamatorium, the upgrades “Input: 1 Apple Pie, Output: 2 Cream Pies” and “Input: 1 Dutch Apple Pie, Output: 4 Cream Pies” both become available to that Baker when choosing an upgrade for the upgrade action.

with

If a Baker’s Location is the Creamatorium, when he performs the upgrade action instead of picking an upgrade he may choose to do the following (if he does so, it still counts as having performed the action, so is still ineligible to receive the free empty pie at the end of that day):

Spend 1 Apple, Pumpkin, Cherry, Strawberry or Blueberry Pie and receive 2 Cream Pies.
Spend 1 Dutch Apple Pie and receive 4 Cream Pies
Spend 1 Spiced Pumpkin Pie and receive 5 Cream Pies
Spend 1 Medley Pie and receive 9 Cream Pies
Spend 1 Grand Pie and receive 20 Cream Pies.
(note that in order to spend these pies, the Baker must possess at least one of the pie he is spending)

In the rule “Pie Quota” replace

Whenever a Baker has more than 10 Pies of a certain flavor, the number of their Pies of that flavor is set to 10.

A Baker cannot have more than 20 Pies in total. If performing some action would result in at least one Baker having more than 20 Pies, that action may not be performed.

with

Whenever a Baker has more than 10 Pies of a certain flavor, the number of their Pies of that flavor is set to 10. Cream pies are an exception to this rule, a Baker may have up to 20 cream pies. Whenever a Baker has more than 20 cream pies, the number of their Cream Pies is set to 20.

A Baker cannot have more than 20 non Cream Pies in total. If performing some action would result in at least one Baker having more than 20 non Cream Pies, that action may not be performed.

Pumpkin and Apple are designed to be similar but also different. You need more Pumpkin pies to upgrade to Spiced Pumpkin, but you can get Pumpkin pies faster if you have an empty pie stockpile, but also you need two to make a spiced pumpkin pie instead of one.

Fruit pies are designed to encourage trading, as you can’t just got “Get a Blueberry, get a strawberry, get a cherry, medley them”. There is also the mechanic of wanting to encourage friends to say, have one guy picking pumpkins, another apples, another fruit and then trading with each other to help get grand pies.

quotas modified to make it worthwhile to cream a grand pie.

Comments

GreyWithAnE:

29-08-2012 12:39:37 UTC

Lifting the cap on Cream Pies makes me too nervous here, but I like everything else.  If my “Just a Little Change” passes then I’m definitely a Yes for this one.  But for now I withhold judgment.

quirck: he/him

29-08-2012 12:45:10 UTC

“Locations” is going to be screwed up a bit :)

Are we becoming paranoid with clarifications? One can’t spend a pie he doesn’t have because that would cause amount of that pies be negative which is prohibited by the rules, so this action of spending is illegal.

Clucky: he/him

29-08-2012 16:18:17 UTC

@quirck yeah but it doesn’t hurt

@grey I still wouldn’t suggest having lots of cream pies, as someone can hit you with a warp pie and steal them all and there is no real sense hording them.

GreyWithAnE:

29-08-2012 19:59:18 UTC

Same response as in the other thread: since you can’t choose your target with Portals and you’re immune to Portals in the Science Lab anyway, it’s not tough to hold onto your stash of Creams if you make it a priority.

And holding on to them hardly matters anyway, since you can spend freely and throw all 20 on the same turn that you create them.  :shudder:

Clucky: he/him

29-08-2012 20:02:43 UTC

I mean, so if someone is getting close to a grand pie cream a lesser pie and knock them out. It actually gives the game some strategy in “do I go for the giant machine gun I can use to eliminate two people, or stay light on my feet and hope to get the kill in first”