Friday, February 19, 2021

Proposal: MVGA

Vetoed. Josh

Adminned at 21 Feb 2021 15:12:42 UTC

Remove “When a Proposal creates or modifies a Treaty, every Emperor that voted FOR it becomes a Signatory to that Treaty; for this purpose, a DEFERENTIAL vote is never a FOR vote.” from Treaties [Universal].

Comments

Raven1207: HE/HIM

19-02-2021 15:10:51 UTC

against

Jumble:

19-02-2021 16:42:17 UTC

imperial

Brendan: HE/HIM

19-02-2021 16:59:13 UTC

Not sure what this is trying to solve, but I’m voting against based on the title, sorry.

pokes:

19-02-2021 17:14:26 UTC

What it’s trying to solve is that nobody can vote on anything that affects anything, at the risk of becoming an indelible signatory. Except by DEF-ing, which continues to give Bucky a much larger than usual influence on everything that happens beyond the usual veto power. The practical gulf between everything happening at an emperor’s non-displeasure, and everything happening at an emperor’s pleasure, is very wide and not very fun, as it turns out.

Clucky: HE/HIM

19-02-2021 17:18:04 UTC

But the problem is that without this a bunch of non bears could pass a proposal that says “All bears are very smelly and need to take a bath” and everyone who isn’t a bear could vote for that proposal and there would be nothing bears could do about it.

pokes:

19-02-2021 17:19:46 UTC

👏 we 👏 need 👏 bear 👏 moots 👏

pokes:

19-02-2021 17:20:12 UTC

👏 but 👏 due 👏 to 👏 problems 👏 cannot 👏 have 👏 bear 👏 moots 👏

Clucky: HE/HIM

19-02-2021 17:29:49 UTC

how does this let us have more bear moots?

pokes:

19-02-2021 17:31:53 UTC

It doesn’t! But we still need them!

Josh: ELECTOR HE/HIM

21-02-2021 14:54:43 UTC

veto