Would this wording not make you the sole arbiter of who gets to win? After all, you can simply just sit on your current Thesis for months with no obligation to let anyone else have a go.

Thinking about it, a grace period might work. If you have the oldest thesis and you’re between day 7 and day 8, nobody else can attempt it but after that, it becomes a free for all for anyone at day 7 or more?

I’ve added a shit-or-get-off-the-pot clause - better?

Works for me

so it gives you two days to get your thesis aligned?

that doesn’t really seem fair

feels like you already won a “random and frustrating” race to get a thesis down and now you’re trying to go “okay no more races”

@Clucky I enacted the proposal that established theses after it had been timed out for a full day and a half; if it was a race to get a thesis in place then it certainly seems like no-one was interested in winning it.

I know that you hate the idea that I might want to make progress in the game but popping up every few days to vote down my proposals is getting a little old, if a little familiar.

Giving players two days to resolve their theses is a double edged sword; committed opposition can also use that time to establish blocking plays. This just forces the issue; it means that players have to resolve their thesis rather than sitting on them indefinitely.

well i mean there previously was no “whoever gets their thesis in first gets two full extra days to try and fulfill it” rule…

Would it help if I promise not to attempt to Declare Dominion over Randomness for the first 48 hours that my thesis kicks in?

I’m still allowed to attempt victory in other ways of course, but this way you don’t have to worry about me sniping with that particular ability, and nobody else has hashes set so that gives 8 hours at the very least.

I’m only half concerned about the clash at the front-end; the mechanical change here that feels more important to me is that theses have to be proven or they expire, rather than sitting around for weeks.

Even so, it can be very swingy how long you might be in the queue. People might churn through it when they realise their current thesis is impossible, or people might take the full two days per thesis.
I’m fine with giving people as long as they need for it. After all, if they’re telegraphing a setup by probing, you can always wreck their plan by probing it again.

Not that it makes a difference to me though. I’m aiming to win the moment the thesis cooldown is off for me.

I’m fine with giving people as long as they need for it. After all, if they’re telegraphing a setup by probing, you can always wreck their plan by probing it again.

That’s basically my position; extra time isn’t really much of a help, here, and this proposal is really just establishing how the mechanic should have worked in the first place.

I promise to not Declare Dominion Over Randomness until at least nine days have passed since I first set my thesis but I prefer the current version of how things work. Setup can take time.

FWIW SingularByte I won’t be considering that promise binding.