Thursday, February 25, 2021

Proposal: On Both Your Houses

Timed out popular, 7-0. Josh

Adminned at 27 Feb 2021 20:09:00 UTC

If a sentence that includes the text “all Electors with the highest Mistrust and all Electors with the second-highest Mistrust” exists in the rule “Ethics of the Nobility” then replace that sentence with the following:

At any time, a Faction’s Mistrust is the sum total of the Mistrust of all Electors who have it as their Faction; all Factions which have the highest Mistrust are Prominent Factions, and any Electors who has their Faction set to a Prominent Faction is a Patrician. A Patrician’s Political Heft is always considered to be zero, unless all Electors with the same Faction as that Patrician (including the Patrician themself) have the same Secret Faction.

Replace the sentence that begins “An Elector may change either piece of information at any time” in the rule “Factions” with the following:

An Elector may change either piece of information to any surname on the list of Italian surnames wiki page, either by changing their Faction directly in the tracking document as a Daily Action, or by private messaging the Doge to change their Secret Faction as a Daily Action.

Clucky had a good point in the comments of “Too Many Cooks.” I think large Factions should be vulnerable, Faction-switching should have a time cost, and Mistrust should be contagious.


Clucky: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 20:43:19 UTC

Should it be a daily action, or once per season?

I think the most interesting way to do things from a gameplay perspective is that you tell Josh what you want your new private and public faction to be. Then, as part of the masquerade process, he updates all those requests. That way we don’t get any “change my faction to match yours, only for you to change yours away from mine, and we’re caught in a game whoever can align their daily actions right”

Brendan: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 20:58:14 UTC

I think the kind of game you’re describing is interesting, especially with other players in the mix who can take advantage of that timing but make themselves vulnerable by doing so. Faction-switching happening in sweaty late-night deals a couple times a Season seems appropriate for the theme.

Josh: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 21:28:46 UTC


Clucky: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 21:51:41 UTC

But the problem is that it advantages people who are aligned in similar timezones as Josh, and so can make their final moves before the masquerade goes up

regardless I’m


I can do a proposal to change how it works later. Would rather have this mechanic even with no changes to faction hoping than not have this mechanic at all.

Kevan: HE/HIM

26-02-2021 09:01:51 UTC



27-02-2021 03:19:00 UTC


Zack: HE/HIM

27-02-2021 03:50:38 UTC


Darknight: HE/HIM

27-02-2021 19:27:42 UTC