Monday, August 06, 2012

Proposal: Permutations suck

Quorums 1-4 and fails. — Quirck

Adminned at 07 Aug 2012 09:01:12 UTC

In the rule “Secret Disclosure”

replace “The Demon should then send a reply specifying the Sacred Letter that Amulet is associated with.” with

“The Demon should then send a reply specifying the Sacred Letter that Amulet is associated with and which position in the word that Secret Letter is.”

The Demon must tell each farmer who has already performed an Secret Disclosure this dynasty with the position(s) of each letter corresponding to the amulets they sent it and his earliest convince.

Apparently Quirck isn’t telling us the position of letters. Even if I get all four letters, I wouldn’t know if my A-E-N-R is “NEAR” or “EARN” and would need to spent two weeks to guess both. Thats stupid.

Also my letter is an E. If we all post our letters we can maybe figure out that there is only one possible word they make and then someone who has the first or last letter can send a ton of manuls to the other guy who has the first or last letter and so we can end this boring dynasty.



07-08-2012 01:56:40 UTC



07-08-2012 03:39:28 UTC

against Knowing positions makes it too easy. Even knowing the positions of two letters (e.g., H in slot 1, Z in slot 3 = HAZE) can make it too easy to win.

Especially if people share letter/positions, as you suggested people could.

Clucky: he/him

07-08-2012 06:19:47 UTC

Then require more of the amulets / make the word longer / rework the whole system. I’d rather be in the situation where you can make a guess and get lucky with not all the necessary information, than one where you have all the information and still can’t win.

quirck: he/him

07-08-2012 08:24:13 UTC

Well, maybe make that weekly action daily or twice-per-week? against

Josh: he/they

07-08-2012 09:13:04 UTC


Clucky: he/him

07-08-2012 14:01:49 UTC

That doesn’t really help quirck. You still have the issue of “I have all the information I’m supposed to get, I just need to get lucky in my guess” which seems really annoying to me.

quirck: he/him

07-08-2012 14:54:52 UTC

Actually you won’t have to get lucky.. The purpose is not to force you to guess the word, but to gain necessary amulets. And I know only one word consisting of the sacred letters.

Clucky: he/him

07-08-2012 15:58:54 UTC

well that solves the problem too. though might reveal too much information, I donno…