Saturday, July 20, 2013

Proposal: Poetry

Times out and fails 5-7 / Skju

Adminned at 22 Jul 2013 16:31:38 UTC

Enact a new Rule entitled “\{'/}”:

No Dynastic Rule may have a name that is a word in English or any other natural language.

Enact a new Rule entitled “&~!”:

There is a GNDT column labeled “Irises” and a GNDT column labeled “Slips”, both of which default to 0.

A Play is a type of Votable Matter. Any Player with an Image may submit a Play, in accordance with a Form, the name of which shall prefice the Play’s Subject, if they do not have any other Plays pending at the time. A Play should be somehow relevant to its Player’s Image, and, if indicated by the Player and if they have one, their Style. Players should vote FOR a Play if they think that it is relevant to its Player’s Image and conforms with its Form.

Any pending Play may be enacted by any Admin if either of the following is true:
* It has a number of FOR Votes that exceed or equal Quorum and has been pending for at least 14 hours.
* It has been pending for at least 28 hours, it has more than 1 valid Vote cast on it, and more valid Votes cast on it are FOR than are AGAINST.
Any pending Play may be failed by any Admin if either of the following are true:
* The number of Players who are not voting AGAINST it is less than Quorum.
* It has been pending for at least 48 hours and cannot be Enacted.
* It has been pending for more than 6 days.

When a Play is enacted, its Player gains a number of Irises equal to the its Form’s Weight. If its Player indicated that it is also relevant to their Style and they have one, they additionally gain the same number of Slips.

Enact a new Subrule of “&~!” entitled “:%°”:

The following are valid poetic Forms with brief descriptions and their Weights in parentheses:

* Free Verse; unrestricted poem (1)
* Haiku; three lines with 5, 7, and 5 syllables respectively (2)
* Quatrain; four lines, at least two ending in words that rhyme with one another (2)
* English Sonnet; fourteen lines with ABAB CDCD EFEF GG rhyme scheme (3)
* Terza Rima; fourteen lines with ABA BCB CDC DAD AA rhyme scheme (3)
* Villanelle; see [] (4)
* Sestina; 39 lines with end-word repetition scheme ABCDEF FAEBDC CFDABE ECBFAD DEACFB BDFECA EDA, the last three lines including F, B, and C, respectively (5)

If a Play with one of these Forms is also in a constant meter (i.e. each line having the same number of the same metrical foot) and its Player indicates such, the Weight is increased by one for the Play in question.

In the Rule “<><", change "If a Player has an Image and has not has not changed their Image within the last 48 hours" to "If a Player has an Image, has not changed their Image within the last 48 hours, and does not have a pending Play".

Enact a new Rule entitled "…":

Each Player with a Style may change it once. Repeal this Rule 72 hours after “Poetry” passed.

Contains enough flexibility to not discriminate based on ability.
Reward Irises and Slips; require Stylistic explanation upon use. Implement visual, auditory, other arts.
Currently independent of Eyes because of Eyeless. May consolidate.



21-07-2013 03:53:23 UTC

for I like it, for the most part.  Can you explain the 28-hour thing for pending plays? :P
As free verse is unrestricted, giving it a constant meter is trivial at this point…

Clucky: he/him

21-07-2013 04:11:39 UTC

I’m not sure how I feel about the Style thing. There is no penalty for lying. Plus its hard to say whether you lied about it or not even if you discover someones style.

Also not sure why we need to let people change their style.

But I really like the idea so for


21-07-2013 05:35:11 UTC

12/24 hours felt just a little too short :)

The thing about Slips is that you’ll probably “redeem” them all far in the future, to declare victory or something, whereupon you should have to reveal your Style and explain its connection to each of your Plays where it isn’t obvious. If you lied, your Slips would be meaningless and voided, and your Style would no longer be secret.

I’m letting people change Styles because they may not have chosen them with this sort of thing in mind and so may otherwise be at a disadvantage.

Kevan: he/him

21-07-2013 07:13:42 UTC

against Because I’m not very interested in writing or reading complex forms of poetry, or trying to regulate against “bad” poetry.

redtara: they/them

21-07-2013 07:15:46 UTC

against Because of the first bit…

Josh: he/they

21-07-2013 08:43:30 UTC

for Although I wonder if this could be a bit more nomicy.


21-07-2013 14:29:29 UTC


RaichuKFM: she/her

21-07-2013 15:40:39 UTC



21-07-2013 16:26:53 UTC



21-07-2013 20:01:00 UTC

Notice that the quality of Plays isn’t even mentioned. There’s so much room for possible Forms and nothing restricting them to art; you could add anything you want or are good at or interested in.

(Ienpw, that’s the least significant part of the Proposal and can easily be changed.)


21-07-2013 21:05:35 UTC


redtara: they/them

22-07-2013 06:18:50 UTC

Skju: I know; to be honest I don’t really the rest of the proposal either though.

Kevan: he/him

22-07-2013 10:31:45 UTC

The quality of the Plays is part of the problem; you can just copypaste existing ones you found online with a few tweaks, or a lazy “blah blah blah my Image” one if you don’t want to claim the Style bonus. It’s going to be gamed, especially in a dynasty with no Emperor, and a game of “hide one of a thousand things subjectively in text” is likely to end in groans (“All my Sestinas were connected to RNA because they began with the letters G, U, A and C. Too bad you guys didn’t know your nucleotides!”), and - I think - very hard to build a fair set of rules around.


22-07-2013 14:17:14 UTC

Good point. I suppose that a significant degree of subjectivity and “gameability” is inherent in making 1000 elements meaningful and distinct.


22-07-2013 15:39:05 UTC



22-07-2013 16:13:49 UTC