Another classic Kevan punishment.

as other votable matters this dynasty have established a degree of sporting flexibility for simple mistakes, and it feels unreasonable to single me out without any interest in a compromise.

The intention here is just to baseline legalise the gamestate, since your atomic action being incomplete has knock-on effects. Like I say, a compromise refund can be made at proposal speed - we shouldn’t hold up the stability of the game while discussing that.

lol if you think that my “give josh 2 contribution back” proposal is going to pass

I have zero faith that it would receive a single vote from Team Brendan and, frankly, I don’t believe you do either.

The explicit purpose of this CfJ is in fact to separate those two issues, so you can maximise the punishment while minimising the risk; thanks but I’ll keep my leverage, actually

What leverage? The dynasty can work around you refusing to redo an atomic action that you know to be invalid: you time out and someone else gets a go.

Like I say in the proposal, I’d be open to you simulating a reroll to complete the action.

“You’d be open” sounds great until another member of Team Heel decides to CfJ that, too, or you just do it yourself. Again, if you’re suggesting that it go up in a proposal: I have zero faith in anybody from your side voting for that, when you have already demonstrated fundamentally partisan intent. If you’d actually been open to it then it would be in this CfJ rather than something you were expecting me to put up to a separate vote.

This is just a bare-faced way of stripping out some marginal gain at the end of the dynasty, and I don’t know why you’d expect it to get rubber-stamped.

This was a neutral action-was-legal-to-no-effect to keep the game moving: bolting on an “I think Josh should reroll” or “I think Josh should get 3 but not 4 Contribution” risks giving a reason for people to vote against it, if they don’t like the exact payout. It’s not intended to close the book.

I think you’re being pessimistic about Team Brendan voting bloc: Brendan has voted for your CfJ to gain 3 Contribution, Lemon wants a “better CfJ”, and I’d be happy with a reroll. If Team TyGuy will support you unanimously whatever you ask for, then you’ve already got your quorum for a follow-up proposal.

seems overly harsh.

[redtara] Again, not intending this to close the book, just to keep the game moving.

I appreciate that Josh prefers the “leverage” of framing this as a situation where we have to agree the payout and fix the jammed gamestate at the same time (meaning that we could only unjam the gamestate when Josh was happy with the payout, and could not if he was not), but we really don’t.