Monday, October 18, 2021

Call for Judgment: Royal assent

Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 1 vote to 7 by Kevan.

Adminned at 19 Oct 2021 17:44:33 UTC

[Core] [Appendix]

Remove the text “other than VETO” from the rule Votes.

Remove the text “vetoed or” both times it appears in the rule Resolution of Proposals.

Remove the text “or vetoed” and the text “When a Failed proposal has been Vetoed it may optionally have the Vetoed status upon resolution, which is considered to be the same as Failed for the purposes of all other rules.” from “Enacting and Failing”.

Remove the text “, and a crossed-out circle shall represent a vote to VETO.” from the appendix keyword entry “voting icons” and add the word “and” before “a DEF”

Remove the text “The Drone may use VETO as a voting icon to cast a Vote on a Proposal; when the Drone casts a vote of VETO on a Proposal, this renders the Proposal Vetoed, even if the Drone later changes their Vote. ” from “Special Proposal Voting”

Since the emperor - and BN’s most important player - has decided that abuse of power is a good thing, actually, let us limit those powers by removing this outmoded and rarely used ability.


Josh: he/they

18-10-2021 13:58:00 UTC


Can we please calm the level of rhetoric down a bit? It’s getting personal and I don’t like it.

Zack: he/him

18-10-2021 13:59:09 UTC


redtara: they/them

18-10-2021 14:06:09 UTC

I’m leaning in to the role play a bit, but I do think “abuse of power” is a very direct and literal description of someone wielding a veto for purely self interested purposes, when the justification for vetoes’ existence is more about protecting the dynasty’s theme.

Chiiika: she/her

18-10-2021 14:46:22 UTC

against you need veto, and saying “abuse of power” is a little bit of the big ais energy


18-10-2021 14:51:54 UTC

against Vetoes are important, and needn’t be discarded.

Clucky: he/him

18-10-2021 15:24:01 UTC


redtara: they/them

18-10-2021 15:33:41 UTC

Clucky, per your previous reasoning your vote is invalid because unidling players are meant to have their gamestate restored, which “can only be” done by updating the gamestate in the place where it is tracked. Whoever unidled you failed in their obligation to properly restore the gamestate and as such you have not been unidled.

redtara: they/them

18-10-2021 15:35:02 UTC

Should I “fix” the situation with a cfj?

Brendan: he/him

18-10-2021 15:58:04 UTC


Clucky: he/him

18-10-2021 16:21:07 UTC

I added myself to the list of active players, which is the only step needed to unidle under my interpretation of the rules. I then properly announced my unidling prior to casting my first vote.

Your behavior towards me feels overly antagonistic and I do not appreciate it. It is what lead me to unidle from the game last time, and the fact that it hasn’t changed certainly has be a bit annoyed right now.

Josh: he/they

18-10-2021 16:25:49 UTC

@Clucky Join the club. I think that redtara might not be here to make friends.

Clucky: he/him

18-10-2021 16:41:16 UTC

@Josh community guidelines still apply lets try and keep stuff focused on personal experience rather than assigning intent - I stated I’ve felt their behavior to me has been antagonistic, but I don’t think any of us can speak to what they’ve actually been trying to do in terms of “making friends” or choosing to be antagonistic. I know I can sometimes come across as antagonistic even when I’m not trying to be.

Josh: he/they

18-10-2021 16:42:07 UTC

You’re right, thank you; I withdraw the comment.

Raven1207: he/they

18-10-2021 19:06:14 UTC