Sunday, October 03, 2021

Proposal: Scamnesty [Appendix]

Reached quorum 8 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 05 Oct 2021 09:06:43 UTC

In the rule Random Generators, and throughout the Clarifications section of the Appendix, change all instances of the term “Proposal” to “Votable Matter”.

Giving up one of my back-pocket scams: “Where a Proposal would amend the effects of Proposal Enactment, this does not apply to its own enactment unless explicitly stated” doesn’t cover CfJs - so a CfJ that upheld its own enactment would always have been legal, theoretically. The landscape has never existed where I could have gotten away with that scam, but I always dreamed.

Comments

Madrid:

03-10-2021 11:29:26 UTC

I disagree with that interpretation but *shrug* I’m not against adding this.

Kevan: he/him

03-10-2021 11:43:18 UTC

Could maybe say “term” instead of “word”, here, for pedantry’s sake. Not sure how I feel about the loophole, but I appreciate you dropping it into the big metal bin.

Josh: Observer he/they

03-10-2021 12:00:06 UTC

Thanks - changed

Kevan: he/him

03-10-2021 12:15:12 UTC

Line-by-line check looks good, just a little odd in a couple of places for plainly-written examples being rephrased into something we’d never actually type (“two days after this Votable Matter enacts…” ,“a Votable Matter proposing that enacted Votable Matters earn their author a banana…”).

This also raises the weighty question of why two unrelated examples are both invoking bananas.

redtara: they/them

04-10-2021 00:00:20 UTC

for

Brendan: he/him

04-10-2021 01:39:59 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

04-10-2021 09:46:23 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

04-10-2021 16:44:24 UTC

The only concern I have is this one:

> If the Admin enacting a Proposal reaches a step which cannot be applied immediately (e.g. “two days after this Proposal enacts, Citizen A gains 1 point”), that step is ignored for the purposes of enactment. Once a Proposal has been enacted, it can have no further direct effect on the gamestate.

might there be situtations where we want a CfJ to have effects that are not applied immediately? I’m not sure. I can’t think of any but it seems like maybe its a useful tool to have in the back pocket.

Kevan: he/him

04-10-2021 17:27:14 UTC

I can’t think of any that we couldn’t also achieve by having that CfJ enact a rule of “do a thing, but not immediately, then repeal this rule”.

lemon: she/her

04-10-2021 21:12:57 UTC

for

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

05-10-2021 04:07:12 UTC

for

TyGuy6:

05-10-2021 07:58:51 UTC

for

Madrid:

05-10-2021 08:54:47 UTC

for