Thursday, July 07, 2016

Proposal: Sealer

Fails 1-6 with 4 not voting against (Quorum=6) -Bucky

Adminned at 07 Jul 2016 21:56:50 UTC

In the rule “Keywords ” Amend entry “Day” text

It can never be 2 different days at the same instant.


It can never be more or less than one day at any instant.



07-07-2016 14:32:25 UTC

Note: As much as I think basic logic implies that it can’t be no day at all, I can’t find issue with this, save perhaps that I like the word instant better (time is sort of defined). Tentatively in favor in case anyone has any fixes to suggest. It is certainly a good thing this Nomic doesn’t worry about time zones much.

quirck: he/him

07-07-2016 15:02:52 UTC

Note: I don’t see any rule called “Day”


07-07-2016 15:12:32 UTC

Look in the appendix.

quirck: he/him

07-07-2016 15:15:40 UTC

It’s a glossary entry in the rule “Keywords”, not a rule


07-07-2016 15:17:01 UTC

In retrospect I’m not sure the Appendix are rules. Will hold off until someone more experiences says if this will work.

quirck: he/him

07-07-2016 15:25:34 UTC

And also, when you want to replace some text in a rule, cite it precisely: there is no phrase “It can never be two days at the same instant” in the ruleset, thus there is nothing to amend


07-07-2016 15:38:50 UTC

Got it.

Clucky: he/him

07-07-2016 15:39:04 UTC

against this is unnecessary

the reason for the “never be two” was a large dispute that transpired over an action that was time stamped at midnight and wondering which day it occurred on. hence the clarification that it can’t count as “both days”

but there isn’t a scenario where one might argue it could be three days at once or zero days at once.


07-07-2016 15:41:17 UTC

against per Clucky.

Don’t worry about it, though, it’s normal for a new player’s first proposal to have some sort of fatal mistake in it.


07-07-2016 15:47:02 UTC

I see your point. This was intended to prevent something like ” as a daily action, add one to XSTAT.”, and then being able to argue that because there was no rule against it being THREE days at a time, they add three to XSTAT.

Clucky: he/him

07-07-2016 15:53:43 UTC

The ruleset is not a constitution, in the sense that if there is no rule against X that doesn’t mean X is legal. Rather everything that is legal has to be outlined in the ruleset.


07-07-2016 16:03:25 UTC

How can I vote neutral?


07-07-2016 16:06:04 UTC

colon IMPERIAL colon or click the middle voting icon above the comment field.


07-07-2016 16:07:11 UTC


Brendan: he/him

07-07-2016 16:49:44 UTC

against Good to have fresh eyes looking over the core rules, though.

RaichuKFM: she/her

07-07-2016 18:02:09 UTC

against What Brendan said.

(And a Deferential vote isn’t exactly neutral, on Proposals, as it is deferring to the Editor’s judgement; a true vote of neutral is basically just not voting.)


07-07-2016 21:21:32 UTC