Saturday, February 12, 2022

Proposal: Tic Tac Travel

Cannot be enacted with 7 Against votes to 1. Josh

Adminned at 12 Feb 2022 21:45:27 UTC

If Proposal: Grid Locked is not enacted this proposal has no further effect.

Append to the rule ‘Grid Locked’:

Reduce the first coordinate of each Position by one if the leftmost column is removed, and reduce the second coordinate of each Position by one if the bottom row is removed.

Any Cell may be referred to as the coordinate pair (x,y), where x is the number of Cells to the left of the named Cell and y is the number of Cells below the named Cell. The Distance between two Cells is the sum of the absolute value of the difference between their first coordinates and the sum of the absolute value of the difference between their second coordinates.

Add a new dynastic rule entitled ‘Cell Walking’, containing the following:

Every Player has a Position, which is a publicly tracked Cell that defaults to (0,0). As a Daily Action a Player may change their Position to any Cell within one Distance of their current Position.

If the Position of a player no longer refers to an existing Cell, any player may change the Position of that player to an existing Cell with the least Distance from the player’s current Position.

The intent here is Manhattan Distance. The second section of the rule is meant to deal with shrinking boards.
Edited to fit with how Decrements should interact with Positions.


Lulu: she/her

12-02-2022 02:52:36 UTC

not sure this meshes well with how the decrement action works

Thunder: he/him

12-02-2022 03:11:12 UTC

True, just realized this makes it look like every Decrement would in effect be a top-right removal. Adjusted to keep (0,0) as the smallest position while still knocking off players on the left and bottom when necessary.

Clucky: he/him

12-02-2022 04:24:04 UTC

This still doesn’t really work, because it only moves players. So if decrement moves the top row, it won’t change players positions and thus they would for all intents and purposes move which cell them are on

Thunder: he/him

12-02-2022 05:18:29 UTC

Would it not? Remove top, coordinates stay the same, and the top row players are bumped down in the second paragraph. Same with right, as this bases it off the unchanged lower left. The shifts are needed for the other two positions as they change where (0,0) is. Each direction seems symmetric now. Not entirely sure who “they” is referring to.

Clucky: he/him

12-02-2022 07:06:21 UTC

oh. missed the paragraph cause stuff doesn’t get appended to the end of a paragraph unless explicitly stated so. but that just means you’ve got a problem if someone’s cell is say (0, 5) and you can’t reduce the 0 so now you can’t reduce the grid.

anyways, even if fixed i’m still not a huge fan of the idea in general so against

Josh: he/they

12-02-2022 09:19:10 UTC


Lulu: she/her

12-02-2022 09:47:52 UTC


Darknight: he/him

12-02-2022 15:40:47 UTC


Snisbo: she/they

12-02-2022 15:47:55 UTC

against Because I’m unsure what “the sum of the absolute value of the difference” means. What are you summing?

Raven1207: he/they

12-02-2022 16:15:47 UTC


Zack: he/him

12-02-2022 16:33:45 UTC

against It might be better to just define a players’ Position simply being a cell on the grid instead of a coordinate pair, because the wiki page is merely a representation of the gamestate so that gives us freedom to track players positions in a way that is least confusing and has the least room for error while still being accurate. You would then only have to account for what happens to someone’s position when they cell they are on gets removed.

@SupernovaStarbright “the sum of the absolute value of the difference between their first coordinates and the sum of the absolute value of the difference between their second coordinates” ostensibly means means

( |x2 - x1| ) + ( |y2 - y1| )

…but there is an extra “the sum of” in there that makes it not make sense.