Correction, he does not have a hairy back (confused him with clucky…stupid similiar names) which gives him a 2/17 chance of being a werewolf (I think)

from looking at my screen it seems ya declared a town meeting at night and you can’t do that. i might be wrong but thats how my screen looks

nope, declared it before it became night :)  Just barely, but right before dusk did I declare the town meeting (look at the timestamp)

ok then lol.  unless bucky can tell me how following ip adresses would help him. that seems way out of the spirit of the game too

He’s the most suspicous person.

i’d rather try the jail first at this point. on the other hand, that might just clog up things for a victory…

maybe if they’re in jail, the night watchman could see if he turns into a werewolf at night… that could be an interesting mechanic…

for obvious reasons.

Of the three points mentioned, only the last is both valid and relevant.

*The first point is not relevant.  It merely shows that I was the first person who received the e-mail and though it was serious enough to contact other Villagers about. The fact that I thought of using the responses to track IP addresses is a general sign of deviousness rather than evidence either for or against guilt.

*the second point, as mentioned by Amnistar, is incorrect.

*The third point, by itself or not, is such weak evidence that I do not think it should be considered.

In summary, this proposal has a lot in common with the CfJ by AngryGrasshopper that de-adminned me;  it brings up a single weak point and surrounds it with tangential issues to make me look bad.

I still say that Bucky has that shifty look about him.

Correction: My rebuttals to the second and third points are backwards.

Darknight:I was trying to find out who sent the “anonymous” email.

buckys counter points got me stuck at 50-50 for afew reasons. even though he did send those e-mails he could have done it in good faith and not as anything evil. his second point is wrong as back in the last round of you getting put up ya name was reported by the watchman. and yes you don’t have a hairy back but thats not a real factor.

can’t blame ya buck but i’m not 100% sure either way.

Why do Amnistar and Darknight both think that it’s night? I’m seeing pre-midnight UTC timestamps here, and the Javascript clock (which is where the colour scheme gets its data) is saying 23:48, which is a correct hour ahead of the British Summer Time I’m living in.

I’m not sure how the Javascript does its voodoo - do your machines maybe have the wrong timezone set? Does Expression Engine have a user setting for which timezone gets displayed?

i use eastern stand for most stuff. idk why it changed. the stamps say UTC

From my perspective it just changed from day to night.

day/night appears to work over here.

Might be my neck later, but . I would have tried to get the IP addresses if I had thought of it first, no matter what side I happened to be on.

If Hix gets on and gets a chance to look at this, I’d love to see if he could work out the actual “Chances” of Bucky being a werewolf?  Along with the others on the list of the watchman (may he be forever safe) and those that were revealed to have harry backs :)

He already posted those—ignoring all other factors and assuming Bucky has not been shaved, he has a 2/17 chance of being a Werewolf.  The Hairy-Backed have a 2/7 chance.

right, I’m interested in seeing how the nightwatch’s sightings effect those chances.

Wait. You say he was the first to respond, but he says he sent them…

[ Amnistar has now been killed by werewolves. ]

so the way i read the rules—the proposal is still there, but amnistar’s vote doesn’t count anymore? definitely time to take some sort of action. but i didn’t get any suspicious emails this round, so i don’t even know what to do.

Actually the way the rules read now (or as I interpret them rather) is that at this point I can no longer vote in the meeting…it doesn’t say my votes previously don’t count, merely that I can’t vote anymore, which means I can’t change whatever vote I have in any town meeting…I think…

I say this because it says that a dead villager may not vote in a atown meeting, not that a dead villager’s votes don’t count.

It depends whether the verb “to vote” is the act of declaring a vote, or the ongoing process of having a say in that vote. I suppose the difference in wording from Rule 1.4 (an idle player’s vote “no longer counts”) suggests the voter.

i can’t propose a meeting right now, but i strongly suggest we try to imprison bucky rather than just lynching him outright. he’s our strongest lead right now, and if imprisoned, we could watch him at night to see if he turned into a werewolf, and/or interrogate him to possibly learn the identities of other suspected werewolves. we can’t do any of that if he’s dead.

as far as victory, seems logical that imprisoning someone could count the same as killing them regarding acuity points. certainly more humane, though maybe not in the tradition of strict mafia.

I’d like to point out that retroactively removing someone’s vote after they die a) makes no sense and b) allows the Werewolves more control over Town Meetings, since they can just pick off people who vote against them.  Kevan and Amnistar’s interpretation is definitely preferable.

I agree.  Amnistar’s vote was legal at the time, so it still counts.

aye. leave any votes placed before death as valid

last vote change. lets put hin in jail first