Monday, March 22, 2021

Proposal: Two For His Heels

Enacted 5-2. Josh

Adminned at 23 Mar 2021 18:00:54 UTC

In “Impending Rules”, replace “a Play, being a comment to the Game’s Table that names exactly one Card.” with:-

a Play, being a comment to the Game’s Table that names exactly one Card and an amount of Score claimed for the Play (defaulting to zero if not specified).

Replace “After each Play, the score for that play is calculated based on the instructions in the Tricks subrule. That is added to the scores from the Player’s previous Plays in that Game to establish a rolling score for that Player in that Game.” with:-

If the claimed Score for a Play does not exceed the Score which could be claimed for it in that situation, this is added to the claimed scores from the Player’s previous Plays in that Game to establish a rolling score for that Player in that Game.

If it exists, remove “If a Player scores a Trick for a Play that is one of their Eyes, that Player gains an additional two-thirds of a point from the Trick.” from Impending Rules.

Changing scoring from “happens automatically even if unclaimed and/or unnoticed” to “must be claimed out loud”. If a player fails to notice and declare a scoring opportunity, or misses an angle and only claims some of it, that’s all they get.

Also allowing scoring to happen in rules other than Tricks if necessary, and removing an unwanted clause that Ispettore for All (if it enacts) didn’t mean to add, and which would be activated by this change.

Comments

Lulu: she/her

22-03-2021 15:22:26 UTC

imperial

Clucky: he/him

22-03-2021 16:05:17 UTC

against I feel like “You misunderstood how scoring works, therefore you get no points for your whole play” is a bit harsh.

Kevan: he/him

22-03-2021 16:33:03 UTC

That seems okay to me, for just being poor, inattentive play: on a par with not playing your cards in the best order because you misunderstood how scoring worked, or not choosing a Mask because you misunderstood how Masks worked.

I think it’s harsher that a player can deliberately choose to leave their score (or some of their score) unclaimed until the very end of the game, surprising an opponent who might have played their Death earlier if they’d realised you were getting 4 points per turn from the Hierophant.

It’s also easier to recover from, if much later in the dynasty someone points out they forgot to score an Aria in an old game and so legally, retroactively won it after all.

Josh: Observer he/they

22-03-2021 17:03:05 UTC

V consistent with eg Cribbage.

That said: If you post “King of Spades” and then a couple of seconds later “Oh, oops, also 1 point” - would that be too late? I feel like you should be able to claim points up until the point at which your opponent plays.

for but it’ll need some tweaking.

Raven1207: he/they

22-03-2021 22:14:30 UTC

against

Brendan: he/him

22-03-2021 23:21:22 UTC

for I’m with Josh on being able to hastily append a trick, if nothing else has changed.

pokes:

23-03-2021 17:11:39 UTC

imperial