Sunday, December 10, 2023

Proposal: Benefit Increase

Timed out 1-3. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 13 Dec 2023 01:02:22 UTC

In “Influence” replace “Each Resource has an associated Beneficial Aspect and a Hindering Flaw which is also listed in the table below.” with “Each Resource has two associated Beneficial Aspects and a Hindering Flaw which are also listed in the table below.”

Add Resilient as a Beneficial Aspect for Military
Add Hale as a Beneficial Aspect for Religion
Add Comely as a Beneficial Aspect for Popularity
Add Astute as a Beneficial Aspect for Alliances
Add Menacing as a Beneficial Aspect for Wealth

Not all of these perfectly fit, but trying to fix the imbalance in the power of certain features


JonathanDark: he/him

10-12-2023 20:21:07 UTC

Since multiple Beneficial Aspect matches would be possible with this change, you should also replace all instances of “a Beneficial Aspect that matches one of the Features” with “at lease one Beneficial Aspect that matches one of the Features” so that there’s no argument that two matches disqualifies a particular action from taking place.

Kevan: he/him

10-12-2023 20:27:09 UTC

Not a bad fit. Would maybe flip Astute to Wealth and Menacing to Alliances.

Some of these features already count towards being in Parliament, though, so I’m not sure we necessarily need this.

Kevan: he/him

11-12-2023 10:02:45 UTC

against as this would allow the proposer double up their Astuteness for both Parliamentary access and Influence.

SingularByte: he/him

11-12-2023 11:54:12 UTC

against  per Kevan, but we might want other benefits for some of the traits.

JonathanDark: he/him

11-12-2023 14:02:29 UTC

against Good catch

lendunistus: he/him

11-12-2023 15:54:40 UTC


Clucky: he/him

11-12-2023 16:44:37 UTC

So you can already double up Menacing, Ambitious *and* Charismatic… but Astueness is a bridge too far?

good jokes

Kevan: he/him

11-12-2023 16:55:51 UTC

We are where we are. Me, I skipped rolling a second Aspect earlier in the dynasty because there was a good chance that it wouldn’t have been a Beneficial one.

You’re proposing to make both of your Aspects Beneficial for different Resources. I get no benefit from that, and Jonathan and SingularByte get no benefit either (their Astuteness has the same effect as their Ambition).

Clucky: he/him

11-12-2023 17:05:21 UTC

I mean that is a different discussion from pretending like its about making astuteness special