Friday, June 01, 2012

Proposal: Big Ben’s Little Friend

Vetoed. -Purplebeard

Adminned at 05 Jun 2012 01:24:15 UTC

If there is a subrule of the Hard Rules, entitled “Chronotohms”, add another subrule to it called “Recharging” and give it the following text

After June 1st 2012, every 48 consequetive (but non-overlapping) hours which a Time Monk has remained occupying Dynasty 100, that Time Monk gains one Chronotohms. A Time Monk may only gain five Chronotohms in this manner without changing their Occupied Dynasty.

Add the following to the list of ways Chronotohms can change their Occupied Dynasty

For 0 Chronotohms, the Time Monk’s Occupied Dynasty changes to Dynasty 100

Goal is to make earning Chronotohms an automatic action that happens every two days, but force you to eventually move away from home and spend them.

Comments

welknair:

01-06-2012 22:02:49 UTC

for  And so the game begin…

Bucky:

02-06-2012 00:32:19 UTC

against since it’s not clear what happens when a Time Monk violates the ‘only 5’ clause.  Would be FOR if it said “A Time Monk can only gain…”

Clucky: he/him

02-06-2012 00:37:12 UTC

How are “can” and “may” different here?

Bucky:

02-06-2012 01:02:10 UTC

‘can’ means they aren’t able to.  ‘may’ means that it’s illegal for them to (and since it’s automatic, they must leave the dynasty first).

Darknight: he/him

02-06-2012 04:35:58 UTC

imperial

BobTHJ:

02-06-2012 16:01:35 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

02-06-2012 17:03:20 UTC

against Magical “every X hours, the gamestate updates, even if nobody is around to update it” effects are usually a bad idea, as it means the visible gamestate can lag behind the real one. (And in practice, this particularly implementation would be a nightmare - someone would have to comb through the gamestate every hour to see whether anyone had been in Dynasty 100 for the past 48 hours, for the GNDT to be anywhere near accurate.)

“If a player has been in Dynasty 100 for 48 hours and has not claimed a Chronoton during that time, they may claim a Chronoton” would be a safer way to do it.

Josh: Observer he/they

02-06-2012 17:10:30 UTC

veto bugged - “every 48 consequetive (but non-overlapping) hours” - the hours will be non-overlapping, but the 48 hour period can overlap with aplomb, meaning that this is effectively “one free Chronotohm per hour”.

Josh: Observer he/they

02-06-2012 17:11:52 UTC

Aside: that may be my first ever veto.

Clucky: he/him

02-06-2012 17:13:23 UTC

“If a player has been in Dynasty 100 for 48 hours and has not claimed a Chronoton during that time, they may claim a Chronoton”

the goal is to prevent people from having to grid. So if its been 240 hours, they can gain 5 Chronotons

Josh, I think its clear the ‘non-overlapping’ refers to the periods. Obviously the hours themselves can’t overlap… how would that even work??? Or is 61 minutes two hour overlapping?

Josh: Observer he/they

02-06-2012 17:15:36 UTC

1:02 to 2:02 overlaps with 1:03 to 2:03.

A clear read is that the brackets modify the noun that follows, I think - if someone scammed it and a CfJ were raised I would feel compelled to vote in the scam’s favour, let’s put it that way.

Kevan: he/him

02-06-2012 17:44:05 UTC

[Clucky] Absolutely! “For 48*X hours they may claim X Chronotons” would be even better.

Clucky: he/him

02-06-2012 19:44:33 UTC

How about

“A Time Monk Occupying Dynasty 100 may gain Chronton provided the following are true: The number of Chrontons the Time Monk has gained in this manner since switching Occupied Dynasties is less than five, and the Time Monk has been Occupying Dynasty 100 for at least 48*Y consecutive hours, where Y one more than the number of Chrontons the Time Monk has gained in this manner since switching Occupied Dynasties”

Cpt_Koen:

03-06-2012 13:11:07 UTC

I think it’s worth being more precise: “since the last time they switched Occupied Dynasties”.

Also it’s kinda hard to read. How about:
“At any time, a Time Monk who is Occupying Dynasty 100 may Recharge, provided they haven’t Recharged yet since the last time they switched Dynasties. When a Time Monk Recharges, they earn T/2 Chronotohms, rounded down, where T is the time, in days, since they last switched Dynasties.”

(I’m not sure “the time, in days” is the correct phrasing. Maybe “T/48 Chronotohms, rounded down, where T is the number of hours” would be better.)