Friday, March 26, 2021

Proposal: Blind Bidding

Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 1 vote to 5 by Kevan.

Adminned at 26 Mar 2021 17:36:06 UTC

In “Tournament Rules of Giolitti”, change

If they were not the last player in the game to do so, either player in a Game may post a Sfida, which a comment that says it is a Sfida. Before either player may make their next Play or post another Sfida, the opponent of the player posting Sfida must respond with a comment specifying whether they accept or reject the Sfida. If they accept, the stakes of the Game are increased by 1, up to a maximum of 3. If they reject, the Game is Closed, and the player posting the Sfida is the Game’s Campione.

to

If they were not the last player in the game to do so, either player in a Game may post a Sfida, which a comment that says it is a Sfida. Before either player may make their next Play or post another Sfida, the opponent of the player posting Sfida must respond with a comment specifying whether they accept or reject the Sfida. If they accept, the stakes of the Game are increased by 1, up to a maximum of 3. If they reject, the Game is Closed, and the player posting the Sfida is the Game’s Campione.  If less than two Plays have been made, either player may instead post a Double Sfida, which is a post saying that it is a Double Sfida and should contain three of the poster’s cards in their hand.  A Double Sfida is the same as a normal Sfida, but if it is accepted, the stakes are set to 5.  If a Double Sfida contains any cards that are not in the player’s hand, or has less than three cards, the dealer should comment a Fine in the game the illegal Double Sfida happened naming the player.

A bit like bidding ‘nil’ in Spades.  I thought that would be interesting to add on the existing bidding system we already have.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

26-03-2021 04:41:26 UTC

I’m a bit worried that if I post

“Double Sfida: Magician, Devil, 6 of Batons” and I have those cards in my hand, that is a valid double Sfida. However, if I do not have those cards in my hand what happens? There is nothing that says that wouldn’t be Fine. I believe it just wouldn’t actually be a valid Double Sfida (though could maybe still be considered a normal Sfida though probably not). This means I could trick you into thinking we were playing a stakes 5 game with three cards you think are in my hand, but really we’re just playing a stakes 1 game with none of those cards in my hand.

Lulu: she/her

26-03-2021 04:44:40 UTC

Attempted fix.

Josh: he/they

26-03-2021 09:58:51 UTC

“the dealer should comment a Fine in the game the illegal Double Sfida happened naming the player” is weird phrasing - but I think the only bit of it that could be a problem is “happened naming the player” as it doesn’t really specify which player should be named.

imperial

Kevan: he/him

26-03-2021 10:15:40 UTC

Isn’t “nil” in Spades more like declaring (without revealing your cards) that you will lose?

imperial Josh’s vote is now invalid.

Lulu: she/her

26-03-2021 11:47:50 UTC

blind nil, not nil.

pokes:

26-03-2021 12:04:30 UTC

against not a fan of blind nil in Spades

pokes:

26-03-2021 12:45:04 UTC

for CoV having actually read it

lemon: she/her

26-03-2021 14:07:57 UTC

against

Josh: he/they

26-03-2021 14:24:52 UTC

CoV against

Darknight: he/him

26-03-2021 15:43:27 UTC

against