Scam revealed, scam plugged, it’s the circle of life. So

But for Call for Proposal. I don’t mind greenticking it next dynasty though.

Although this will have no effect if the DoV resolves first and redefines Seraph.

Although this still leaves open the option for the Emperor to be a co-Victor? Maybe it’s just time to wind this back to the old single-winner version, now that we’ve had two ascensions which weren’t co-victories.

I’d like to have at least one dynasty that is dedicated specifically to multi-winners/emperors before making a desicion whether it should stay or not (I almost did but I chose Promises instead)

...If a couple of more dynasties pass and we’re still not using it then, ok, I agree with that it should be removed.

It could be submitted as a proposal now that conditionally says to change terms in its text, if appropriate. I wouldn’t veto such a proposal on ascension.

[Cuddlebeam] Sure, I’d like to see that too. There’s just no reason for it to be a core rule (particularly a core rule that’s just been shown to have at least one uncaught loophole).

We’ve managed weirder imperial things in the past without needing to update the core.

[pokes] I can’t submit proposals until hiatus ends, which is why I made this.
[Kevan] Did you unidle? If you have it’s not been updated in the sidebar.

Ah, no, I didn’t, I was going to wait for the DoVs to resolve. Went into voting mode without thinking, there.

Because nobody is the Seraphim any more.