“most recently concluded dynasty” pedanically, dynasties technically don’t end with a successful DoV. There is a still-ongoing dynasty during Interregnums

The first edit leaves us with “then the new Host must start a new dynasty”, which should be dialled down to a “may” so that a Mantle-passing winner doesn’t have to wilfully ignore a “must”.

Your new Mantle Passing rule is missing a restriction on passing back to the Emperor.

[Cuddlebeam] An Interregnum is defined as “the period between dynasties”.

Oh! That’s new, I really need to re-study the ruleset lol

Thanks Kevan, changes made.

The Interregnum change happened because I claimed (wrongly, as it turned out) to have achieved victory in between the start of a dynasty at DoV enactment and the repeal of the victory condition with the Ascension Address.

because I like mantle passing.

til more votes come in

COV

I think it works fine as is

The only intended change here is moving the definition of mantle passing from core to special case, isn’t it? That and throwing out Alliances as a rare subrule of a now-rare subrule.

Currently we have a core rule taking the time to explain that every ascension has the option of a mantle pass, with a special case much later in the ruleset saying that in most dynasties this isn’t allowed. Flipping that around makes the ruleset more readable.

I’m am a bit confused by the flood of against votes, for a proposal that doesn’t change any current mechanic but is just about tidying up the ruleset a little.

I guess it’s because you hadn’t explicitly spelled that out anywhere, and Bucky’s opening vote is suggesting that the proposal is somehow bad for people who like mantle passing.

A flavour text box always helps, if the intention of a proposal isn’t immediately obvious from a five-second skim read.

I guess. We’d just talked about it so much on Discord I assumed that the intent was clear.

I don’t get what the issue is

I was also confused by the contents until I read all these comments.

I’m assuming Bucky had the same thinking I did: I like having the option to pass the mantle as default, not as an exception, and this is taking another step away from that

@Snisbo It isn’t; Mantle Limitations being non-rare makes the option to pass the mantle off by default, and this doesn’t change that. It just re-organises the ruleset a little to make it more legible.

[Supernova] Mantle passing was altered to be an exception rather than the default last month, if you missed that.

@Kevan I know and I wasn’t the biggest fan. This feels like a further step away from it being the default, is all. I guess it doesn’t technically change anything mechanically, though, so CoV