Thursday, March 13, 2025

Proposal: Early Enrollment

Withdrawn. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 14 Mar 2025 14:07:35 UTC

In the rule “Vocating”, add a subrule named “Jump Start” with the following text:

Each Seeker has a number called “Reserve” that defaults to 0 and a “Reservation” which is a Hobby that defaults to no Hobby.

As a Daily Action, a Seeker who is in the Infant or Juvenile Life Stages may perform Jump Start. Jump Start is an atomic action with the following steps:
* Spend an amount of your Wealth greater than 0, up to your current Wealth, and add that amount to your Reserve.
* Set your Reservation to any Hobby that you do not already have as a Vocation.

For a given Hobby, if there is a Seeker who has that Hobby as their Reservation and a Reserve that is higher than any other Seeker who also has that Hobby as their Reservation, that Seeker is considered the Starter for that Hobby. Additionally, if there is a Seeker who is the only Seeker with that Hobby as their Reservation, that Seeker is considered the Starter for that Hobby.

A Seeker may not add a Hobby as a Vocation if there is another Seeker who is the Starter for that Hobby. A Seeker who is the Starter for a Hobby may not add that Hobby as a Vocation if they have performed Jump Start less than 48 hours ago.

Whenever a Seeker adds a Hobby as a Vocation, their Reserve (not boosted by Aspiration) is added back to their Wealth if they were not the Starter for that Hobby, and their Reserve and Reservation are set to their default values regardless of whether they were the Starter for that Hobby or not.

If there are no active Seekers in the Infant or Juvenile Life Stages, any Seeker or the Custodian may repeal this rule.

The current optimal play is to wait a full week, up to the last minute, to choose your Hobbies and snag something no one else has before they do, then immediately perform Be Productive to get the maximum value out of it. I’d rather the dynasty not be dull for the next 7 days, followed by an immediate timing rush.

Comments

JonathanDark: he/him

13-03-2025 17:37:22 UTC

I suppose Jump Start doesn’t have to be a Daily Action. Any opinions on that?

Habanero:

13-03-2025 20:30:08 UTC

I don’t think the optimal play is as clear-cut as you make it out to be. Not every hobby is created equal, and if you wait that long people will already have all the good hobbies, forcing you to either double up or pick something less good. Also the sooner you get a hobby the sooner you become an Adult and can get a job

Habanero:

13-03-2025 20:31:15 UTC

Also, the Reserve refund shouldn’t be boosted by Aspiration (we should really make things default to not being Aspiration-boosted until otherwise stated to prevent constantly having to mention this)

JonathanDark: he/him

13-03-2025 20:41:12 UTC

Thanks for the notice about Aspiration. I’m starting to think that Aspiration should only apply for the Be Productive action and nothing else.

You’re probably right about the optimal strategy, but I thought this could be an alternate way to grab a Hobby if you didn’t want to commit to one right away.

It’s telling that no one has added a Hobby yet except Josh, and Josh only did it because he thought he was going to get the maximum Be Productive output right away.

Habanero:

13-03-2025 21:01:18 UTC

I do like the concept of a way to reserve hobbies. I think this might be a bit broken as it is though, it mostly just moves the timing rush to the beginning (if you’re poor you want to pick hobbies before the rich get a chance to Reserve, and if you’re rich you want to Reserve before anyone else gets a chance to do anything so you can hold on to your Reservation as long as possible and see if it’s a good choice). I’ll probably be against just because of the enacting admin advantage here

Josh: he/they

13-03-2025 21:28:28 UTC

So hang on

The argument here is that first moving is a disadvantage, so you’re going to take away the one compensation that exists for it?

Josh: he/they

13-03-2025 21:28:45 UTC

I think I am being bampamed

JonathanDark: he/him

13-03-2025 21:37:37 UTC

To be fair, I just chose a Hobby myself, and I wrote this before anyone chose a Hobby, so perhaps it’s no longer useful. I’m happy to withdraw it if it seems we’re progressing along just fine without it.

Josh: he/they

13-03-2025 22:19:06 UTC

against

ais523:

13-03-2025 22:55:55 UTC

against I think that any balance gain this might have isn’t worth the rules complexity.

JonathanDark: he/him

14-03-2025 14:06:30 UTC

Withdrawn.  against