Thursday, November 09, 2023

Call for Judgment: Effective Critiera

Quorum Reached. Enacted by Clucky

Adminned at 10 Nov 2023 19:29:02 UTC

Uphold the enactment of “Unlocked!” to have set the Criteria of each Achievement in every case where the wording of the proposal mentioned “effect”

As Bucky pointed out https://blognomic.com/archive/criteria_are_not_effects#comments currently you could argue that none of our achievements actually have criteria. Thus if I were to start a new round, you could maybe even argue that you fulfill all the criteria of every achievement as there is none. Think its better safe than sorry to get this patched before starting a new round.

Comments

JonathanDark: he/him

09-11-2023 18:07:50 UTC

Is this CfJ addressing the right thing? Achievements don’t actually have Effects in the ruleset, it’s just that the Proposal that introduced the Achievements said “with the effect” for each one. It was an enactment problem in that when it was enacted, technically the Criteria should have never been filled out and the “effects” should have gone into the void.

I would re-rwite this CfJ to directly address the enactment of “Unlocked!”. Something like:

Uphold the enactment of “Unlocked!” to have set the Criteria of each Achievement in every case where the wording of the proposal mentioned “effect”

Clucky: he/him

09-11-2023 18:13:50 UTC

eh like they still have the effects. maybe they have to be tracked somewhere but I think if you pass a rule saying “The dog’s color is red” and color isn’t a property on dogs… the dog’s color is still red. That is just an orphaned trait. But if you were to suddenly define a dog’s color, it would still be red.

still don’t want this to get bogged down with nomicy arguments so I’ll update

JonathanDark: he/him

09-11-2023 18:29:45 UTC

Thanks, will greentick after the edit window

Bucky:

10-11-2023 03:28:24 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

10-11-2023 07:09:27 UTC

for

Kevan: City he/him

10-11-2023 08:23:22 UTC

for

Vovix: he/him

10-11-2023 18:28:15 UTC

for