Wednesday, July 12, 2017

Proposal: Favorable Promises

Self-killed. Failed by card.

Adminned at 14 Jul 2017 15:27:15 UTC

Change “the first Promise created has a number of 1, and the second one 2, and the third one 3, etc, with all Promise numbers following that pattern. Pactmakers should not break their own Promise/s, and for greater clarity, Promises don’t “bind” anyone except the Pactmaker which made the Promise. All Promises (along who they belong to) are tracked on the “Pact Magic” wikipage.” to

the first Promise created for a specific Pactmaker has a number of 1, and the second one 2, and the third one 3, etc, with all Promise numbers for that Pactmaker following that pattern. Pactmakers should not break their own Promise/s, and for greater clarity, Promises don’t “bind” anyone except the Pactmaker which made the Promise. All Promises (along with who they belong to) are tracked on the “Pact Magic” wikipage, separated into sections for each Pactmaker.

Add to “Mana”

-[X] Make a Promise that does something favorable to another Pactmaker each weekday in which that promise was made. X is the number of that Promise.

Comments

Kevan:

07-12-2017 16:53:18 UTC

Even if “favorable to another Pactmaker” required some gamestate change rather than a nice compliment or something, it’d still be possible to make the same Promise multiple times and gain large amounts of Mana, wouldn’t it?

card:

07-12-2017 17:29:47 UTC

You’d be burdened down by having to do the same thing again next week.

Kevan:

07-12-2017 17:57:30 UTC

Ah, I misread what you were going for with “each weekday” there.

for

Axemabaro:

07-12-2017 18:24:37 UTC

for

Dewaldo:

07-12-2017 19:38:49 UTC

I might add a condition that the “favorability” of a Promise needs to be decided by the Promisee not the Pactmaker or any other party. Also, “each weekday in which that promise was made” means once a week or every day?

card:

07-13-2017 05:06:11 UTC

Each promise is made on one day of the week, so promise #1 can’t be made on monday and also made on tuesday. If I make a promise right now for this rule, I would have to repeat the favorable thing each Thursday. The “favorability” is deserving of it’s own proposal

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

07-13-2017 09:52:52 UTC

for

pokes:

07-13-2017 10:55:54 UTC

imperial

Thunder:

07-13-2017 22:25:45 UTC

against
The burden thing doesn’t seem big enough to counter an active player abusing this.

pokes:

07-14-2017 00:17:30 UTC

against CoV. Isn’t this infinite Mana as long as I remember to do the tiniest epsilon of favor for someone every week?

Cpt_Koen:

07-14-2017 12:27:16 UTC

against I like the idea, but:

- It needs a more precise definition than just “something favourable to another Pactmaker”, especially for the two reasons that (1) non-gamestate stuff can be favourable, as Kevan pointed out, and (2) there is nothing in the rules that states it’s actually favourable to, e.g., own more Mana;

- The wording “a Promise that does something favorable to another Pactmaker…” is extremely ambiguous. Presumably, you meant “a Promise that commits the Promise-maker to do something favourable…”.

- Promises can be made at-will. In particular, it is possible to make the same Promise several times. If today (friday), I make 6 Promises to give Card 1 Mana every friday, those Promises will be numbered from 1 to 6 (or even bigger numbers if I have made other Promises previously); and on every friday, if I transfer just 1 Mana to Card, I will earn:
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 21 Mana

card:

07-14-2017 15:26:47 UTC

against I didn’t think of that last point.