Tuesday, January 10, 2023

Proposal: Fine, Just ‘Tick’ Then

Fails 5-6. — Quirck

Adminned at 12 Jan 2023 14:23:13 UTC

Add the following to the “Other” section of the Keywords rule in the Appendix, in the correct position when organising entries by alphabetical order:

Endgame Lockdown
When the Dynastic Rules are described as being under an Endgame Lockdown, no Proposals can be made that add to, remove or change their contents.

Throughout the ruleset, including the Core, Dynastic, Special Case and Appendix rules, change all instances of “the Onlooker” to “Onlooker”.

A bit of Proposal: Tick Tock that seems worth getting onto the books.

Bolting on an unrelated but necessary correction.

Comments

Kevan: he/him

10-01-2023 15:02:56 UTC

The rider here needs to be replacing “The Onlooker” with “Onlooker”; we’ve got sentences like “If there is no The Onlooker…” that don’t have the double-the.

Kevan: he/him

10-01-2023 15:05:32 UTC

And I think “Throughout the ruleset” will just default to modifying the dynastic rules, as it would for any other proposal that casually said to do that. The proposal needs [Core], [Special Case] and [Appendix] Tags.

Josh: he/they

10-01-2023 15:08:55 UTC

Thanks; changed. (I refuse to use tags so I’m riding with “an unambiguous statement of which section of the ruleset it takes place”)

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

10-01-2023 15:16:56 UTC

Greentick

Kevan: he/him

10-01-2023 15:21:37 UTC

Why do you refuse to use tags?

Josh: he/they

10-01-2023 15:29:45 UTC

I find them aesthetically displeasing, as well as resenting the many proposals that they have swallowed through the historical overzealousness of the rule.

Bucky:

10-01-2023 18:14:41 UTC

against

Josh: he/they

10-01-2023 18:26:42 UTC

Why, Bucky?

Kevan: he/him

10-01-2023 18:43:26 UTC

for

Bucky:

10-01-2023 18:45:42 UTC

Because I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to put the game into Endgame Lockdown.

JonathanDark: he/him

10-01-2023 18:54:58 UTC

for

Benbot: he/him

10-01-2023 18:58:20 UTC

against For tags and bucky’s reasons

Josh: he/they

10-01-2023 19:05:03 UTC

@Benbot What do you mean, “for tags”?

quirck: he/him

10-01-2023 19:07:18 UTC

against

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

10-01-2023 19:23:01 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

10-01-2023 20:29:47 UTC

imperial

Darknight: he/him

10-01-2023 20:30:21 UTC

For the apathy lol

Janet: she/her

10-01-2023 22:17:24 UTC

against on the principle that we shouldn’t attempt to prospectively evaluate what a proposal does, since a proposal can have arbitrary conditionals. For instance, if a proposal has an “if enacted after X time, amend the dynastic rule ...”, does this rule prevent that proposal being made?

Josh: he/they

10-01-2023 23:17:18 UTC

Yes.

Raven1207: he/they

10-01-2023 23:26:03 UTC

against

Darknight: he/him

11-01-2023 04:14:15 UTC

against cov

SingularByte: he/him

11-01-2023 06:22:17 UTC

for

Bucky:

11-01-2023 18:27:59 UTC

Oh, this is badly scammable. “When the Dynastic Rules are described as being under an Endgame Lockdown” doesn’t restrict who or what does the describing. I could simply make a blog post saying that the Dynastic Rules are under an Endgame Lockdown for a week, and this rule would enforce the lockdown.

Josh: he/they

11-01-2023 18:42:56 UTC

Not sure I buy that one, but this isn’t passing anyway so who cares?