Thursday, December 14, 2023

Proposal: I’ll Be Dead For Christmas

Timed out, 2-2 with 1 DEF. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 16 Dec 2023 06:47:29 UTC

Add the following to “Transition of Power”, replacing “XX” with the result of a DICE24-1 roll

If it is On or After XX:00 on December 23rd, 2023 then the Old King is Perished

If the Old King is Perished, no dynastic actions may be taken other than those described in this rule.

Dynasty feels like its sputtered out a bit. Old King hasn’t any any proposals other than the initial ones. Only four people are really actively doing anything at all.

I don’t want to end it right now, because it still would be fun to play out some of the dynasty, and because the crimbo hiatus would disrupt the flow of any new starting dynasty. But thinking it might be good to lean into the hiatus and use it as an endpoint for the dynasty.

Exact end time is randomized as to not give anyone in any specific time zone a known advantage when voting on this


JonathanDark: he/him

14-12-2023 16:26:56 UTC

against I’d like to give it another week and let some of the Tyngwalls play out. If no one has any fresh ideas or interesting moves after that, I’d support a re-proposal of this exact idea.


14-12-2023 17:09:55 UTC


Clucky: he/him

14-12-2023 17:11:13 UTC

If we wait a week, it’ll be an “end the dynasty in two days” which I don’t think is really enough time to prepare for

I guess the ultimate question is how much longer we really want the dynasty to go for. Right now, it’ll be between 17 and 34 days, not counting the christmas break. That feels a bit long

If we wanna shoot for around 3 weeks, then probably best to past the break. If we wanna shoot for less though, break right before the endgame feels like it would be super disruptive

Kevan: he/him

14-12-2023 17:11:43 UTC

against In favour in principle, although “random timezone wins” seems needlessly messy - if it’s a shared one then you’ll have to duke it out at WW:59 to get the last word.

A literal rule of “random player can take as many free actions as they like, then the game ends” might be fun, though.

Clucky: he/him

14-12-2023 17:14:46 UTC

@Kevan do you have a better suggestion for picking a time that works? I guess something like 18:00 is pretty neutral for everyone actively playing.

Kevan: he/him

14-12-2023 17:25:48 UTC

I don’t think we should be picking a time at all! Multiple players logging in to the wiki at 17:59 to scramble around submitting actions and reacting to others in all-out real time doesn’t sound like a good way to decide the winner.

Clucky: he/him

14-12-2023 17:38:12 UTC

Isn’t that is what is going to happen if the dynasty plays out as normal too?

Once the king’s health gets low, the current rules would make optimal play making sure you’re on right around the day change. If the King’s health is 8 and stress is at 6, you’ll either want to be online to do a few actions to increase his stress and kill him or to run the health check right away before anyone else can kill him.

If the King’s health is 5 or less, you know anyone can end the dynasty at any point on the next day so you’ll have the mad rush to change things.


14-12-2023 18:09:30 UTC