Saturday, December 16, 2023

Proposal: Making Disownment Matter

Timed out 2 votes to 3. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 18 Dec 2023 09:58:54 UTC

In “Claims” after

An Heir whose name is on the Disown list for a Claim is never considered to meet that Claim’s conditions


nor are they considered to be an heir for any other heir satisfying the conditions of that Claim


Right now, even if we successfully disown someone from a claim, other people won’t be able to claim that claim. Which seems wrong to me.


JonathanDark: he/him

16-12-2023 21:32:56 UTC

Good point.  for

Kevan: he/him

17-12-2023 08:10:39 UTC

against Seems fine to me for the Disowned Heir to be remembered enough that their replacement still has to actually outscore them - the Disowned Heir is just blocked from taking the Claim. If you want to knock someone out of the running, you can Assassinate them.

lendunistus: he/him

17-12-2023 08:26:44 UTC

against for obvious reasons


17-12-2023 17:14:33 UTC

against per Kevan and I think this wouldn’t even make e.g. the second-eldest heir to get the Eldest Claim if the disowned heir still has the single highest age

Clucky: he/him

17-12-2023 17:30:07 UTC

@DesertFrog they disowned isn’t an heir so they would have the highest


17-12-2023 18:25:21 UTC

Oh I read it as “nor are they considered for any other heir to be an heir satisfying the conditions of that Claim”

But if they’re not an heir it would surely break something

Clucky: he/him

17-12-2023 19:02:15 UTC

only for the conditions of satisfying the claim. Meaning they don’t count the “have the highest Age among all Heirs.” but still count for all other Heirs