Friday, February 17, 2023

Proposal: No Honor Among Thieves

Withdrawn. Failed by Brendan.

Adminned at 19 Feb 2023 01:16:51 UTC

In the rule “Roughhousing” add the following row to the Roughhousing table:

|-
| Steal || 50 Time in any Location, and additionally 5 Heat if Indoors || The actor and target must be in the same Location || The actor removes 1 Item that is not an Adjective from the target’s Items and adds it to their own Items

 

Comments

Kevan: he/him

17-02-2023 19:03:03 UTC

against Not sure about the flow of items towards Cudgellers here, or the standoffs where the quickest of two Cudgellers will be able to steal and keep the other’s weapon.

JonathanDark: he/him

17-02-2023 19:42:59 UTC

@Kevan: It’s the same issue with Grapple, though, isn’t it? Only with Locations instead of Items. If we want to solve that issue, it should be solved as a general issue of any Roughhousing action, not by rejecting a specific one when others have the same problem.

Josh: Observer he/they

17-02-2023 23:23:56 UTC

No, I agree with Kevan; issues with proposals should be treated at the source, not on the basis of hypothetical future fixes

against

Brendan: he/him

18-02-2023 00:33:47 UTC

for

Habanero:

18-02-2023 02:20:22 UTC

imperial

SingularByte: he/him

18-02-2023 07:49:50 UTC

This is a different situation to the grapples: With that one, the ruleset was in a current state that needed fixing, and the choices were to fix or repeal something - either way, a proposal was necessary. With this one, a fix can be part of the proposal that adds theft.

against  for its current state.

Kevan: he/him

18-02-2023 09:41:36 UTC

I don’t think it’s the case that once the basic Roughhousing rule was hypothetically perfectly balanced it would be then unobjectionable to add “pay 50 Time to steal an Item”, “pay 50 Time to eliminate a player” or anything else on top. Roughhousing and Cudgels are what they are, and this is a vote on whether to make them a bit more powerful. Not for me, thanks.

JonathanDark: he/him

18-02-2023 18:04:14 UTC

against Withdrawn

I’ll come up with a better version of this