BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

Concussive makes an actual infinite loop possible. It seems unlikely that anyone will be able to set one up at this point, but it’s probably best if they don’t exist because our current escape mechanism for infinite loops gives Josh discretion over how many iterations they run (a decision which could in theory, end up deciding the dynasty).

Thanks- have omitted enriched

Think there are still some problems, but we can hopefully fix this in future proposals

1) Does “Whenever an item effect says that Richardo “immediately uses” that Item, he is considered to use it the next time a Room is Pacified.” work even if Richardo isn’t holding the item the next time a Room is Pacified?

2) The movement items (secret passage map, compass) I still feel are a bit poorly defined

“Richardo’s Journey” specifies how to resolve secret passage maps and compasses (compasses override the normal randomization mechanism but can’t produce otherwise impossible results, and secret passage maps cause all rooms to be considered adjacent on the next move).

Your point 1) does seem to be a real ambiguity, though.

I think there is still confusion there. “if Richardo has just used a Secret Passage Map” I feel is a bit unclear as to what “just used” means. I’d interpret it as “In the step right before this one” but maybe people disagree?

Compasses are even more confusing. We specify what happens if an *Effect* forces Richardo to move to a room that would be removed, but I don’t think a Compass is an effect. So when does the “valid option” part of “if moving north is a valid option” kick in?

@Clucky: Compasses only affect the “Secretly randomly select a room from the created list (unless a Treasure or Effect specifies some other way to select from the list, in which case follow its directions instead).” step of the journey; it uses the Compass to decide which direction to select. If the direction indicated by the Compass isn’t on the list, the compass doesn’t get used.

The Compass effect says “when selecting” – it’s specifically designed to interact with that step of the Journey.

The compass still doesn’t define what “valid option” means.

The best interpretation I would think is “Its an option in the list” but some might argue “There isn’t a wall in that direction” while others might argue “There is a room in that direction”

there is also the fun problem of “Richardo goes into a room from the north with a westbound compass and a “richardo’s next move must be to his previous location”“

Does the “go back” effect make heading west not a valid option? Or does Richardo get torn in half as he tried to go two places at once?